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  Reply # 1499898 26-Feb-2016 14:49
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What you see in the primaries is the extremes of American politics. When it comes to the election Mr and Mrs Middle of the Road vote, people who have never been or would even consider going to a candidates meeting or support an extremist.

 

They will not vote for Trump in large numbers.

 

 

 

 

Difficulty: what if the Democrats put up Sanders? He's an extremist (for a US politician) in his own right. Does this mean that Mr. and Mrs. Middle of the Road abstain in droves, leaving only the nutters to vote?

 

 

 

 

Based on recent election results in NZ, I believe that is exactly what happens.....





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  Reply # 1499961 26-Feb-2016 16:18
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SJB:

 

 

 

Trumps wins need to be kept in perspective when considering who will be President rather than who will be the Republican candidate.

 

 

 

He polled just over 34,000 votes in Nevada. That's about 1% of the population of the state and 0.001% of the entire US population (courtesy of the BBC).

 

 

 

If he runs against Clinton I believe it will be a landslide for Hilary (and I have no particular leaning towards her).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe. Personally I am not sure America is ready to follow the first black president with the first female one though.

 


Because?

 

 

 

Mainly because all the Americans I know regret Obama and appear to want something less middle of the road and wet.






 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1499987 26-Feb-2016 16:39
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Geektastic:

 

gzt:
Geektastic:

 

SJB:

 

 

 

Trumps wins need to be kept in perspective when considering who will be President rather than who will be the Republican candidate.

 

 

 

He polled just over 34,000 votes in Nevada. That's about 1% of the population of the state and 0.001% of the entire US population (courtesy of the BBC).

 

 

 

If he runs against Clinton I believe it will be a landslide for Hilary (and I have no particular leaning towards her).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe. Personally I am not sure America is ready to follow the first black president with the first female one though.

 


Because?

 

 

 

Mainly because all the Americans I know regret Obama and appear to want something less middle of the road and wet.

 

 

So they want someone on the right who will trash the life style of the poor and middle class  completely.  These days the Republican Party is all about the rich.  The poor and middle class need not apply.  Forget about your Obama care and what's left of labor unions and benefits, they'll be gone by lunch time..





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  Reply # 1499994 26-Feb-2016 16:50
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Geektastic:

 

 

 

Mainly because all the Americans I know regret Obama and appear to want something less middle of the road and wet.

 

 

Don't be misled by the company you keep. All the Americans I know are still delighted Obama was elected (and especially, re-elected). There are definitely regrets that he couldn't do more than he did, regrets that mean-spirited Republicans in Congress put their dislike of him ahead of their responsibility to the nation and undercut him at every opportunity, regrets that he couldn't elevate the red-neck ignoramuses a little with his refined intellect, and definitely regrets about his mistakes and the things he did not do well (like all presidents before him), but absolutely no regrets, none at all, that he has been President of the United States of America for the past seven years. The country could have done much worse (and I don't mean McCain, also a good and honourable man).

 

 





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  Reply # 1500051 26-Feb-2016 17:36
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The Trump campaign was summed up nicely by him on Tuesday night, when the Donald stated, "I love the undereducated".

...  because he can easily manipulate them.






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  Reply # 1500584 28-Feb-2016 09:12
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Now the KKK is endorsing Trump. I thought he would start WWIII. Actually could be worse but I am unable to imagine how, but with KKK ...

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  Reply # 1500599 28-Feb-2016 09:44
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Donald Trump pledges to curb press freedom through libel laws

 

Donald will alienate the Press.

Big mistake.  He has bitten the hand that feeds him.  wink





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  Reply # 1500600 28-Feb-2016 09:45
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This is a bad dream. Unleashing him onto the world stage? Calling other leaders dicks and try hards? I can see all that so easily


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  Reply # 1500604 28-Feb-2016 09:46
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Rikkitic:

 

Geektastic:

 

 

 

Mainly because all the Americans I know regret Obama and appear to want something less middle of the road and wet.

 

 

Don't be misled by the company you keep. All the Americans I know are still delighted Obama was elected (and especially, re-elected). There are definitely regrets that he couldn't do more than he did, regrets that mean-spirited Republicans in Congress put their dislike of him ahead of their responsibility to the nation and undercut him at every opportunity, regrets that he couldn't elevate the red-neck ignoramuses a little with his refined intellect, and definitely regrets about his mistakes and the things he did not do well (like all presidents before him), but absolutely no regrets, none at all, that he has been President of the United States of America for the past seven years. The country could have done much worse (and I don't mean McCain, also a good and honourable man).

 

 

 

 

 

 

My own experience (to my dismay) reflects that of Geektastics. I work with a lot of Americans. All of the ones I have spent any time talking politics to, even in passing, were delighted he was elected (At the start), but pretty unhappy with how he has led (now). They see him as a promise breaker. They feel Obamacare did not contain enough compromise.

 

Strangely to me, a lot of people voted against him who voted for him in the first election, because with him in Office, the USA has been paralyzed. I kid you not when I say more than a few Americans ( know) would rather have a Republican in office they acknowledge will take the US in a direction they actively disagree with, because "it's better to be heading in ANY direction, than none".

 

These people are normal, intelligent, qualified, and otherwise sane people.


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Geektastic:

 

gzt:
Geektastic:

 

SJB:

 

 

 

Trumps wins need to be kept in perspective when considering who will be President rather than who will be the Republican candidate.

 

 

 

He polled just over 34,000 votes in Nevada. That's about 1% of the population of the state and 0.001% of the entire US population (courtesy of the BBC).

 

 

 

If he runs against Clinton I believe it will be a landslide for Hilary (and I have no particular leaning towards her).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe. Personally I am not sure America is ready to follow the first black president with the first female one though.

 


Because?

 

 

 

Mainly because all the Americans I know regret Obama and appear to want something less middle of the road and wet.

 

 

 

 

Most of the criticism as I see it falls into a few categories:

 

Racist diatribe, mainly hiding behind anonymity on the 'net, by a few bigoted loudmouths.

 

Criticism (most of it FUD) of what's called Obamacare, based on fundamental ideological opposition to socialised healthcare.

 

Unsatisfied expectations that following 9/11 and GFC, Obama (or anybody else) could offer a quick-fix to problems resulting from decades of misguided economic and foreign policy.

 

 


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  Reply # 1500677 28-Feb-2016 11:53
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Strangely to me, a lot of people voted against him who voted for him in the first election, because with him in Office, the USA has been paralyzed. I kid you not when I say more than a few Americans ( know) would rather have a Republican in office they acknowledge will take the US in a direction they actively disagree with, because "it's better to be heading in ANY direction, than none".

 

These people are normal, intelligent, qualified, and otherwise sane people.

 

 

If true (I have no doubt it is) I find this incredibly sad and unfortunate. I have to say I share in the sense of disappointment with Obama, and I certainly blame him for some things, but I still would not choose anyone else currently in the picture over him, and I think the people I know feel the same. He could have done better, and I wish he had, but the paralysis of American politics is on both sides. I don't know if one is more to blame than the other, but nearly everyone in Congress seems more concerned with point-scoring than working together for the common good. In the past, both sides more or less played by the rules and respected the results. Yet for some reason, conservative Republicans never accepted the Obama presidency and from the day he was elected, went out of their way to look for reasons to question his legitimacy. The stupid 'birther' issue was just one example of that. They conducted the most mean-spirited, bitter, destructive, pointless campaign in the history of the country throughout his entire presidency to try to undercut him and bring him down. When the history of the decline and fall of the USA is written, this will be a defining moment.

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1500694 28-Feb-2016 12:27
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While we're at it, B&H is being sued by the US govt for discrimination (ie racism) against Hispanics.

Better conclude it fast in case Trump takes over and normalizes it.

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joker97: I thought he would start WWIII. Actually could be worse but I am unable to imagine how, ...

 

One word: Putin

 

 


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  Reply # 1500941 28-Feb-2016 20:45
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joker97: I thought he would start WWIII. Actually could be worse but I am unable to imagine how, ...

 

One word: Putin

 

 

 

Two words: Trump + Putin.  undecided





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  Reply # 1500969 28-Feb-2016 21:08
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Just imagine if he rewrites the constitution and becomes a dictator. The 14th amendment it shall be.


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