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  # 109071 7-Feb-2008 14:13
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obviously some cockfap coming along with a can of warehouse paint and tagging up your fence is crime.

someone with proper graf paint painting an actual picture in mutiple colours is art. its pretty easy to distinguish the two.

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  # 110096 12-Feb-2008 15:45
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When I was a teenager there was a book on the 'art of graffiti'.  I looked in vain for my 'art' but there was one from my school - you couldn't ignore it, it was everywhere - Becca l's Chook.  Some of the stuff was funny, and some just strange.  Most would be politically incorrect, even going so far as villification.  My hubby wanted to go to TT's and tag her, I hought just sending our kids around for the arvo would be enough...  By the way, as far as parental control goes, I am horrified by the thought, seeing that there is no such thing nowadays.  There's certainly no way of backing it up, I mean, you can't even smack the blighters...


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  # 110100 12-Feb-2008 16:22
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From TV3 last night:


It's no point having laws if there is nobody there to catch them and I doubt NZ will ever throw enough resource at it.

I think I'll chase up the trust mentioned and see what I can do to help ...


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  # 110102 12-Feb-2008 16:43
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Well this one is easy, CRIME!!!!

What gives someone the right to abuse someone else's property!?!? Those who tag are simply immature and have nothing better to do, its simply just a way to get recognised...

I've grown up in an area where graffiti is the norm, and i've always found that this graffiti was being done by people who just wanted to be "cool"

Hopefully one day these idiots will wake up and smell the roses, GRAFFITI IS NOT COOL!!

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  # 110109 12-Feb-2008 17:01
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Tagging is a crime.

I lived in Auckland next to a School for about 10 years.
And the little buggers would leave their tag on the fence to show off to their mates.
The quicker it gets removed the better, to stop other taggers joining in.
Who pays for the paint and time to remove the tag’s? Not the buggers doing it that for sure!

I once caught a tagger and spray painted him!!
Should have heard the little bugger complain about cost of replacing his favourite t-shirt. I told him in no uncertain terms I was sick of buying paint to remove his and other tag’s and who was paying for that!

(I don’t recommend the above as I nearly got charged by the police, but by god it felt good to get one back)

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  # 110110 12-Feb-2008 17:05
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But that is the point.  For these guys it's all about COOL.

Sometimes the only way to get some recognition from your peers is to destroy something to prove you are cool. 

Madness, I know.  I reckon that when they get caught we give them to the Army ... and not just for a few weeks.  Send 'em off to Afghanistan ...

So ... having established that we ALL agree that it is wrong what are we going to DO about it ... and how can I apply technology to help (just to get back to being a geek).


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# 113899 1-Mar-2008 10:36
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tagging and grafitti are different although they share a common origin. Grafitti is an artform tagging is a crime. It's as simple as the that. Beyond personalities and political parties the essence is, tagging is a crime. Regulate the means & you regulate the ends...



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  # 113913 1-Mar-2008 11:55
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I blogged about geeky graffiti last August. This is more like art than graffiti however.

I guess we're lucky down South as it is not so much of a problem. I still carry around meths and cleaning products to get rid of tagging from comms cabinets/shelters.

Perhaps the little so-and-so's should be tagged themselves - how about "VANDAL" or "DICKHEAD" written across their foreheads in permanent marker??!?


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  # 113920 1-Mar-2008 12:11
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Graffiti/Tagging is a crime.  And it should be treated as such.  If they are so interested in 'art' then they should enrol at a polytech and learn to put their 'talent' to good use.   I would be very angry if any of my property was tagged.

The goverment and law makers are far too soft and should be totally cracking down on it.  It's pure vandalism.

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# 113971 1-Mar-2008 16:57
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 Try spending some time painting out tagging, (I work  as a handyman).  And most are unintelligable.  Some need to  learn the alphabet ! 
  Street art, with permission can be beautiful. The local community hall, with a mural, has now been wrecked by taggers.

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  # 113976 1-Mar-2008 17:18
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Grafitti is not a crime, nor is lets say, boxing. it all comes down to context. If boxing is a so called sport then in the context of a ring and or a gym it is considered exactly this, a sport & not a crime. If you change the context and put the boxer in a tavern car park or in the home with a wife doing ideally the same 'action' then it becomes a crime. I and half a dozen colleagues make tens of thousands of dolllars every year selling grafitti and tagging aimed specifically at the corporate market. Biillabong 'tags' their own clothing range. Roxy too follows suit as does the majority of youth orientated clothing ranges available today. Is this deemed a crime? why not? in essence it's the same 'action'. If there was one law for one people would these people be deemed criminals? Of course they shouldn't. Vandalism by any means is a crime, thats the issue, not grafitti or tagging. Would the same be said if Leonardo decided to paint some random picture of his twisted ideal of pagan gods in different stages of undress on your fence in the middle of the night? Of course it would. Vandalism! Wikipedia states "Vandalism is a conspicuous defacement or destruction of a structure" Grafitti and tagging is not a crime unless its used in the context of vandalism. Not everybody involved in the culture that embraces grafitti advocates vandalisim. Punish the player, not the game.

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  # 114193 2-Mar-2008 19:21
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That's correct.

And remember boys & girls - ONLY law obeying people obey laws. Criminals don't obey the law. This is something polititians and 'community activists' forget every day of the week.

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