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  #1492386 15-Feb-2016 07:50
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I do not know if it will make any of you feel better about the speeding fines, but this is the way I look at it. When I lived and worked in Wellington I picked up several 55 60 kmh fines, it was inevitable. I think of them as just another form of road tax. As pointed out earlier Its a myth that speeding at that level causes accidents Or so the stats say. What cause the majority of accidents in my mind would have to be bad drivers, Lack of driver education,driving under the influence of something, and poor cars and poor roads. 

 

While I have the soap box They insist we wear seat belts to stop injury in accidents. Why do they not put speed limiters on cars to stop speeding? and in all seriousness if you want to stop drink drivers killing themselves and other easy 1st offense? banned from driving for life 2nd offense Life in prison What ? to harsh. 





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  #1492388 15-Feb-2016 07:54
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sonyxperiageek:

 

And are those old speed cameras still working? I've always wanted to know how they operate technically, like how do they set the speed tolerance for all the cameras in NZ? Do they use mobile data to remotely send all the infringing images and information to the central police headquarters?

 

 

 

 

I am probably waaaaaay out of date...but the computers use to be set to certain zones, the operator simply dialed up the code for the zone, set the camera up with the correct angle etc, chose the mode (approaching/departing or both) and away it went.  The images were captured locally and couriered to the Infringement Bureau for processing.   Any program changes were sent on a disk which had to be loaded into the computer.  Once set up the camera was completely autonomous.

 

    





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  #1492395 15-Feb-2016 08:28
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scuwp:

 

sonyxperiageek:

 

And are those old speed cameras still working? I've always wanted to know how they operate technically, like how do they set the speed tolerance for all the cameras in NZ? Do they use mobile data to remotely send all the infringing images and information to the central police headquarters?

 

 

I am probably waaaaaay out of date...but the computers use to be set to certain zones, the operator simply dialed up the code for the zone, set the camera up with the correct angle etc, chose the mode (approaching/departing or both) and away it went.  The images were captured locally and couriered to the Infringement Bureau for processing.   Any program changes were sent on a disk which had to be loaded into the computer.  Once set up the camera was completely autonomous.

 

 

 

 

Some of the Vans in Auckland were outsourced, the Owner I know has 4 Vans and is paid a salary per van to look after them.

 

His have Mobile data and send the pictures back almost instantly, and even have surveillance cameras inside in case someone comes up to have a look.





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  #1492414 15-Feb-2016 09:05
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cisconz:

 

 

 

Some of the Vans in Auckland were outsourced, the Owner I know has 4 Vans and is paid a salary per van to look after them.

 

His have Mobile data and send the pictures back almost instantly, and even have surveillance cameras inside in case someone comes up to have a look.

 

 

 

 

That's what actually annoys me about it. The fines you pay don't go into improving the roads. They make a profit for some private individual. Obviously the equipment itself has to come from a private manufacturing company, but the ongoing ticket revenues collected should not.





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  #1492422 15-Feb-2016 09:30
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SaltyNZ:

 

That's what actually annoys me about it. The fines you pay don't go into improving the roads. They make a profit for some private individual. Obviously the equipment itself has to come from a private manufacturing company, but the ongoing ticket revenues collected should not.

 

 

They go to the Government, not a private entity...

 

http://www.police.govt.nz/faq/where-does-money-infringementsfines-go


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  #1492433 15-Feb-2016 09:53
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RunningMan:

 

SaltyNZ:

 

That's what actually annoys me about it. The fines you pay don't go into improving the roads. They make a profit for some private individual. Obviously the equipment itself has to come from a private manufacturing company, but the ongoing ticket revenues collected should not.

 

 

They go to the Government, not a private entity...

 

http://www.police.govt.nz/faq/where-does-money-infringementsfines-go

 

 

Why do you think people want to be in politics? So they can influence where the money goes...


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  #1492443 15-Feb-2016 10:05
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RunningMan:

 

 

 

They go to the Government, not a private entity...

 

http://www.police.govt.nz/faq/where-does-money-infringementsfines-go

 

 

 

 

That may be true in the immediate sense, but if the systems are outsourced, then fines revenue is going in to consolidated revenue, and back out again to the outsourcing company from the same place. It doesn't really matter whether it happens in one step or two. If it happens in two steps it costs us even more, because someone has to double-handle it.





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  #1492445 15-Feb-2016 10:06
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So you want the people staffing the cameras to do it for free then?





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  #1492452 15-Feb-2016 10:10
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So you want the people staffing the cameras to do it for free then?

 

 

 

 

No, I want them to work for the government. Obviously the people working the cameras deserve a salary. But the guy that owns the business that employs them gets rich off the outsourcing costs. The money that makes him rich is money that does not make our roads better. That is what I have an issue with.





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  #1492491 15-Feb-2016 10:46
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I've not heard of the cameras being outsourced before - any reference that backs this up?


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  #1492497 15-Feb-2016 10:49
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 Well, directly, only the post above. But it is a pretty common practice globally.





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  #1492511 15-Feb-2016 11:34
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RunningMan:

 

I've not heard of the cameras being outsourced before - any reference that backs this up?

 

 

 

 

Same here, serious doubt about that claim.  Police do employ civilians, I guess they are cheaper and better to use trained sworn staff elsewhere which makes sense, but Police absolutely have direct control over deployment of speed cameras and camera staff.  I am not even sure they can legally contract out that service.    

 

And yes the money goes into the consolidated fund. As before in the god-knows-how-many threads on this topic, if you don't wish to contribute to this "tax" then there is an absolute 100% foolproof way to stop. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #1492539 15-Feb-2016 12:04
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I got pinged for 89/80 over the Xmas hols.  Fair cop. 

 

I was coasting down the Nauranga gorge after a long hour drive. Foot off the pedal and simply not paying enough attention to my speedo.

 

At $30 it's hardly going to break the bank, more of PITA than anything else. 

 

I think I'll get a copy of the photo for posterity





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  #1492590 15-Feb-2016 13:06
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Geektastic:

 

Issuing a ticket for breaking the limit seems fine to me.

 

 

 

 

Issuing a ticket for breaking the limit seems like a fine to me.

 

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  #1492600 15-Feb-2016 13:29
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You've been done for a moments lapse in concentration on the speedo, so you'll have to pay it.

 

1 question, don't you have 28 days to pay the fine? after the 28 days, then what happens?

 

I mean, for the sake of a $30 fine, can you make it cost them half that in reminder letters, then warning letters?


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