Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Glurp
8230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3788

Subscriber

Topic # 195207 10-Apr-2016 17:06
Send private message

What to do what to do? I wasn't going to mention this in view of some recent feedback I have had. Then I realised I was censoring myself out of fear of adverse reactions. Not cool, as someone here might say. Some things are just important, regardless of much they may upset the Tories amongst us. Am I just dissing on New Zealand again? Maybe I am critical because I actually care about this country. It is just a shame our good journalists don't have more support for serious investigative work.

 

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/201796151/in-and-out-of-the-loop-on-the-biggest-leak-ever

 

 

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
918 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 279

Trusted

  Reply # 1529577 10-Apr-2016 17:17
Send private message

I think the leak was so big, that people haven't really comprehended what is going on. I mean I been following snowden on twitter and some of the stuff that was going on in iceland was pretty major, you dont see a lot of that being reported here.

 

Also you have to remember that soooo much stuff (11.4 million docs, totaling 2.6 Terrabytes) was leaked I don't even think any single organisation has even gotten through it all yet. I suspect more will come out, it will take time.

 

 






2280 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 370

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1529579 10-Apr-2016 17:23
4 people support this post
Send private message

NZ's international news is just whatever they find drip fed from the AP, spelling mistakes and all. 


7387 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3860


  Reply # 1529584 10-Apr-2016 17:35
One person supports this post
Send private message

 Some comment and opinion from Bernard Hickey here:

 

http://www.hivenews.co.nz/articles/1214-hive-news-tuesday-key-denies-nz-a-tax-haven-nz-mentioned-60-000-times-in-mossack-fonseca-leak

 

This isn't going to just "go away".  


483 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 286

Trusted

  Reply # 1529587 10-Apr-2016 17:45
6 people support this post
Send private message

NZ media is very insular (pun intended). Something only matters abroad if its (a) entertainment, or (b) involves a plucky kiwi. Ratings show that's exactly what the punters want. We don't want analyses, we want entertainment.




Glurp
8230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3788

Subscriber

  Reply # 1529588 10-Apr-2016 17:45
One person supports this post
Send private message

Maybe we're not as incorrupt as we always thought we were. Isn't it interesting how these kinds of things only seem to emerge thanks to leakers like Manning and Snowden. Where are their medals again? Oh, right.

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


4247 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2489

Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1529591 10-Apr-2016 17:54
3 people support this post
Send private message

roobarb:

 

NZ media is very insular (pun intended).
Something only matters abroad if its (a) entertainment, or (b) involves a plucky kiwi.
Ratings show that's exactly what the punters want.
We don't want analyses, we want entertainment.

 

 

+1

 



 

(I have posted this cartoon on GZ before  - but it is 100% still true.)





Sideface


483 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 286

Trusted

  Reply # 1529595 10-Apr-2016 17:58
Send private message

roobarb: NZ media is very insular.

 

Or given we have two islands, would that be insulae?




Glurp
8230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3788

Subscriber

  Reply # 1529601 10-Apr-2016 18:07
Send private message

roobarb:

 

roobarb: NZ media is very insular.

 

Or given we have two islands, would that be insulae?

 

 

Pedant

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


483 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 286

Trusted

  Reply # 1529603 10-Apr-2016 18:09
Send private message

Rikkitic:

 

roobarb:

 

roobarb: NZ media is very insular.

 

Or given we have two islands, would that be insulae?

 

 

Pedant

 

or insulation.


1301 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 270


  Reply # 1529606 10-Apr-2016 18:24
6 people support this post
Send private message

Criticism of the NZ media can be readily found online, plus the references to dirty politics and concerns over political interaction with various media. This would lead most overseas news organisations to believe that NZ is too small and the media too unreliable to be entrusted with investigating leaks of this magnitude. 


gzt

10181 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1560


  Reply # 1529624 10-Apr-2016 19:23
2 people support this post
Send private message

Maybe so. Another factor is around the time the Panama leak began Nicky Hagar was still in court after the police searched his home on a fishing expedition and seized a bunch of stuff. The court eventually found in his favor, which is a victory for NZ. Hagar had previously worked for/with the same group on document investigations.



Glurp
8230 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3788

Subscriber

  Reply # 1529629 10-Apr-2016 19:39
One person supports this post
Send private message

It is to this country's credit that the court found in his favour, but we still have a way to go.

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


5225 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1120

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1529656 10-Apr-2016 21:06
Send private message

Rikkitic:

 

What to do what to do? I wasn't going to mention this in view of some recent feedback I have had. Then I realised I was censoring myself out of fear of adverse reactions. Not cool, as someone here might say. Some things are just important, regardless of much they may upset the Tories amongst us. Am I just dissing on New Zealand again? Maybe I am critical because I actually care about this country. It is just a shame our good journalists don't have more support for serious investigative work.

 

http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/mediawatch/audio/201796151/in-and-out-of-the-loop-on-the-biggest-leak-ever

 

 

I suspect no NZ media were involved because both of the two main daily newspaper groups could be relied upon to call the Beehive and warn them....and thus every other country.  





____________________________________________________
I'm on a high fibre diet. 

 

High fibre diet


5225 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1120

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1529658 10-Apr-2016 21:12
Send private message

Rikkitic:

 

Maybe we're not as incorrupt as we always thought we were. Isn't it interesting how these kinds of things only seem to emerge thanks to leakers like Manning and Snowden. Where are their medals again? Oh, right.

 

 

NZ is becoming steadily more corrupt. 

 

Not hard to see why.....there are now hundreds of thousands of people here from countries where corruption is a normal part of everyday life. If only 10% of them forget WHY they left their own corrupt countries to come here......then we have a real problem. Knowing that, the present government has skimped on money to monitor corrupt activities...so even as we really should be mindful of the need for closer monitoring and enforcement.....the reverse is happening.

 

It's as though they want it to happen: This government wants NZ to be more corrupt.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





____________________________________________________
I'm on a high fibre diet. 

 

High fibre diet


3127 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 947

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1529662 10-Apr-2016 21:24
Send private message

Elpie:

 

Criticism of the NZ media can be readily found online, plus the references to dirty politics and concerns over political interaction with various media. This would lead most overseas news organisations to believe that NZ is too small and the media too unreliable to be entrusted with investigating leaks of this magnitude. 

 

 

Well said. In fact I'd go as far as expanding the term unreliable to encompass both investigative ability and keeping mouths shut.


 1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.