Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13
4326 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1722


  Reply # 1568772 9-Jun-2016 15:54
Send private message

Not necessarily ....

 

Currently Sky shareholders are proposing to use Sky funds to buy Vodafone in a deal that leaves Vodafone with 51% of the merged company.  

 

It may be more palatable to Sky shareholders to have their shares bought outright - cash in hand etc.

 

ockel:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Spark should put money where mouth is and make an 'NZ' bid for Sky. 

 

 

It'd have to be a hostile bid - and a significant premium to the VOD/SKY transaction.   Not even Spark is that stupid.

 





Mike

1558 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 352


  Reply # 1568773 9-Jun-2016 15:55
Send private message

cokeman2:

 

since it was a pay tv  monopoly ,will they extend that to , must be a voda mobile and  broadband customer to get sky tv/ sports ??

 

 

That would probably be a daft idea. Against it would loss of business - which would see the company losing all telephony business with many customer - and the powers available to the Commerce Commission.

 

They are a monopoly for certain pay TV products and channels but they don't have a monopoly on all pay TV. They are not the only purchaser (monopsony) of pay TV channels. Other suppliers purchase some of those channels and you can pay for TV through them. That's why you can get Rialto outside of Sky TV. 


8 posts

Wannabe Geek
+1 received by user: 2


  Reply # 1568817 9-Jun-2016 16:41
Send private message

And it's official

 

http://news.vodafone.co.nz/sky-and-vodafone-nz-merger-to-create-a-leading-integrated-telecommunications-and-media-group-in-new-zealand/

 

 


12273 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2137

Trusted

  Reply # 1568824 9-Jun-2016 16:50
Send private message

cokeman2:

since it was a pay tv  monopoly ,will they extend that to , must be a voda mobile and  broadband customer to get sky tv/ sports ??



I'll take annual leave to keep up with that thread.

Can't see it but I would wager there will be differetiations. One will get cake icing and cream, the other will get cake. Or maybe the $50 deal will be standard for Voda users? The rest of us 63% will just get fan pass and grumble.

1263 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 157


  Reply # 1568828 9-Jun-2016 17:11
One person supports this post
Send private message

cokeman2:

 

since it was a pay tv  monopoly ,will they extend that to , must be a voda mobile and  broadband customer to get sky tv/ sports ??

 

 

Do you have to be a Spark customer to get Lightbox?


2606 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 359

Trusted

  Reply # 1568838 9-Jun-2016 17:37
Send private message

Prime News are calling it VodaSky for now


3064 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 909

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1568851 9-Jun-2016 17:57
One person supports this post
Send private message

DjShadow:

 

Prime News are calling it VodaSky for now 

 

SkyFone has a better ring [/pun]


Aussie
4187 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1179

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1568853 9-Jun-2016 18:00
One person supports this post
Send private message

Twitter are using #Skodafone :)


13967 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1761


  Reply # 1568855 9-Jun-2016 18:04
Send private message

MikeAqua:

 

Spark should put money where mouth is and make an 'NZ' bid for Sky. 

 

 

 

freitasm:

 

Spark press release makes a point of pointing out the competitors are really "not New Zealand companies":

 

“More and more New Zealanders have been choosing Spark in the last few years, and their trust in us reinforces our commitment to New Zealand. Should this proposal clear the hurdles in its way, it would mean that Spark remains the only major industry player controlled from New Zealand, with 2 Degrees controlled out of the US, Vocus out of Australia and Sky TV/Vodafone NZ out of the UK.”

 

 

 

 

 

IMO they wouldn't ever be allowed to buy it, as it took years for the Commerce Commission to get 3 mobile companies in NZ. Going back to two, it will be impossible to prove that consumers will be better off. 

 

 

 

But I really do wonder what benefit there is for Sky buying VF. Basically they become like Spark, an ISP with an addon service (pay TV). Why don't they buy a far cheaper ISP if they were going down that track. eg Like Orcon when that was for sale. 


12273 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2137

Trusted

  Reply # 1568858 9-Jun-2016 18:12
One person supports this post
Send private message

mattwnz:

MikeAqua:


Spark should put money where mouth is and make an 'NZ' bid for Sky. 


 


freitasm:


Spark press release makes a point of pointing out the competitors are really "not New Zealand companies":


“More and more New Zealanders have been choosing Spark in the last few years, and their trust in us reinforces our commitment to New Zealand. Should this proposal clear the hurdles in its way, it would mean that Spark remains the only major industry player controlled from New Zealand, with 2 Degrees controlled out of the US, Vocus out of Australia and Sky TV/Vodafone NZ out of the UK.”




 


IMO they wouldn't ever be allowed to buy it, as it took years for the Commerce Commission to get 3 mobile companies in NZ. Going back to two, it will be impossible to prove that consumers will be better off. 


 


But I really do wonder what benefit there is for Sky buying VF. Basically they become like Spark, an ISP with an addon service (pay TV). Why don't they buy a far cheaper ISP if they were going down that track. eg Like Orcon when that was for sale. 



Sky didn't buy Vodafone. VF bought Sky and its VF UK

Webhead
2001 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 629

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 1568870 9-Jun-2016 18:41
Send private message

ockel:

 

 

 

Do you have to be a Spark customer to get Lightbox?

 

 

Is this a rhetorical question? 

 

No, you don't have to be a Spark customer to get Lightbox.





7798 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 779

Subscriber

  Reply # 1568871 9-Jun-2016 18:41
Send private message

tdgeek:
mattwnz:

 

MikeAqua:

 

 

 

Spark should put money where mouth is and make an 'NZ' bid for Sky. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

freitasm:

 

 

 

Spark press release makes a point of pointing out the competitors are really "not New Zealand companies":

 

 

 

“More and more New Zealanders have been choosing Spark in the last few years, and their trust in us reinforces our commitment to New Zealand. Should this proposal clear the hurdles in its way, it would mean that Spark remains the only major industry player controlled from New Zealand, with 2 Degrees controlled out of the US, Vocus out of Australia and Sky TV/Vodafone NZ out of the UK.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IMO they wouldn't ever be allowed to buy it, as it took years for the Commerce Commission to get 3 mobile companies in NZ. Going back to two, it will be impossible to prove that consumers will be better off. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I really do wonder what benefit there is for Sky buying VF. Basically they become like Spark, an ISP with an addon service (pay TV). Why don't they buy a far cheaper ISP if they were going down that track. eg Like Orcon when that was for sale. 

 



Sky didn't buy Vodafone. VF bought Sky and its VF UK

 

Wonder how many years they will keep it for before flicking it off??





Regards,

Old3eyes


1221 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 123


  Reply # 1568875 9-Jun-2016 18:43
Send private message

I guess if one thinks of the new entity being a media company, then the convergence makes sense. I think it basically increases the subscriber base and may slightly raise vodafones ARPU at a guess, although I think that they will still need to consider that peoples average monthly spend is divided among more entities now.

A single bill would be good, although I still receive two from VF each month for internet and phone, so it wouldnt be surprising if I ended up receiving three.

I notice that sky uk already offers this type of convergence (my sky, broadband and phone) and I suspect they will probably (if not already) offer 4k. Hopefully the new entity will continue to use the mysky decoder technology and keep it inline with the uk.




Software Engineer

 


12273 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2137

Trusted

  Reply # 1568884 9-Jun-2016 18:59
Send private message

TwoSeven: I guess if one thinks of the new entity being a media company, then the convergence makes sense. I think it basically increases the subscriber base and may slightly raise vodafones ARPU at a guess, although I think that they will still need to consider that peoples average monthly spend is divided among more entities now.

A single bill would be good, although I still receive two from VF each month for internet and phone, so it wouldnt be surprising if I ended up receiving three.

I notice that sky uk already offers this type of convergence (my sky, broadband and phone) and I suspect they will probably (if not already) offer 4k. Hopefully the new entity will continue to use the mysky decoder technology and keep it inline with the uk.

If Voda had a national network I would get it, but they don't . Sky makes good money Voda loses money. B
But I don't see the convergence.

12273 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2137

Trusted

  Reply # 1568885 9-Jun-2016 19:03
Send private message

old3eyes:

tdgeek:
mattwnz:


MikeAqua:


 


Spark should put money where mouth is and make an 'NZ' bid for Sky. 


 


 


 


freitasm:


 


Spark press release makes a point of pointing out the competitors are really "not New Zealand companies":


 


“More and more New Zealanders have been choosing Spark in the last few years, and their trust in us reinforces our commitment to New Zealand. Should this proposal clear the hurdles in its way, it would mean that Spark remains the only major industry player controlled from New Zealand, with 2 Degrees controlled out of the US, Vocus out of Australia and Sky TV/Vodafone NZ out of the UK.”


 



 



 


 


 


IMO they wouldn't ever be allowed to buy it, as it took years for the Commerce Commission to get 3 mobile companies in NZ. Going back to two, it will be impossible to prove that consumers will be better off. 


 


 


 


But I really do wonder what benefit there is for Sky buying VF. Basically they become like Spark, an ISP with an addon service (pay TV). Why don't they buy a far cheaper ISP if they were going down that track. eg Like Orcon when that was for sale. 




Sky didn't buy Vodafone. VF bought Sky and its VF UK


Wonder how many years they will keep it for before flicking it off??



I dunno. Sky makes an income, Voda doesn't.. I think sky can be the stability. But how will Voda leverage Sky at the detriment of non Voda users?. It could be F it I'll just use Fanpass and bypass both of them

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

N4L helping TAKA Trust bridge the digital divide for Lower Hutt students
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:08


Winners Announced for 2018 CIO Awards
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:03


Logitech Rally sets new standard for USB-connected video conference cameras
Posted 18-Jun-2018 09:27


Russell Stanners steps down as Vodafone NZ CEO
Posted 12-Jun-2018 09:13


Intergen recognised as 2018 Microsoft Country Partner of the Year for New Zealand
Posted 12-Jun-2018 08:00


Finalists Announced For Microsoft NZ Partner Awards
Posted 6-Jun-2018 15:12


Vocus Group and Vodafone announce joint venture to accelerate fibre innovation
Posted 5-Jun-2018 10:52


Kogan.com to launch Kogan Mobile in New Zealand
Posted 4-Jun-2018 14:34


Enable doubles fibre broadband speeds for its most popular wholesale service in Christchurch
Posted 2-Jun-2018 20:07


All or Nothing: New Zealand All Blacks arrives on Amazon Prime Video
Posted 2-Jun-2018 16:21


Innovation Grant, High Tech Awards and new USA office for Kiwi tech company SwipedOn
Posted 1-Jun-2018 20:54


Commerce Commission warns Apple for misleading consumers about their rights
Posted 30-May-2018 13:15


IBM leads Call for Code to use cloud, data, AI, blockchain for natural disaster relief
Posted 25-May-2018 14:12


New FUJIFILM X-T100 aims to do better job than smartphones
Posted 24-May-2018 20:17


Stuff takes 100% ownership of Stuff Fibre
Posted 24-May-2018 19:41



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.