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  #1579595 24-Jun-2016 15:05
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I think this process gives our leaders a message. Don't forget the people and maybe we need a referendum for TPP

It also shows the world how a civilised nation decides important matters without a bullet.

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  #1579628 24-Jun-2016 15:39
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Looking at some of the individual results in England what is interesting is that where remain has won it has been by a small margin but where leave has won it has been pretty much a landslide.


 
 
 
 


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  #1579632 24-Jun-2016 15:44
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London is pretty clear in the Stay camp though (about 2/3rds stay). Rest of England wants to go though. Scotland firmly in the Stay camp as well.

 

Interesting watching the Live results coming through.

 

Polls wrong again.


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  #1579633 24-Jun-2016 15:44
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It can be called now. It's a Brexit vote.

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  #1579634 24-Jun-2016 15:45
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MikeB4: I think this process gives our leaders a message. Don't forget the people and maybe we need a referendum for TPP

It also shows the world how a civilised nation decides important matters without a bullet.

 

 

 

Nigel Farage used that without a bullet line and is  now being hunted down by the Twitterati because that MP got shot...!






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  #1579635 24-Jun-2016 15:46
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Yep, BBC predicting brexit. Only 70 results left.


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  #1579636 24-Jun-2016 15:46
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MikeB4: I think the Pound will rebound.

 

 

 

Of course it will. It's been a massively desirable currency for a very long time. These wobbles will soon dissipate.






 
 
 
 


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  #1579637 24-Jun-2016 15:47
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MikeB4: I think this process gives our leaders a message. Don't forget the people and maybe we need a referendum for TPP

It also shows the world how a civilised nation decides important matters without a bullet.

 

 

 

It'd rather harden their resolve to avoid holding a referendum at all cost - about anything "important" at all, IMO.

 

Opinion polls have been firmly against TPP, that's been ignored and countered by the old "mandate was granted in the last general election" ploy, bolstered somewhat by support (for TPP) by present and past members for the opposition.

 

There's anti-establishment sentiment all over the democratic world.  Unfortunately (IMO) that's allowing political opportunists to gain traction.  It might be democratic, but democracy always carries the risk of becoming influenced by "mob rule". Good luck to the UK - hopefully enough of the population have enough sense so that things don't descend to chaos.  Where's this going to happen next?


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  #1579638 24-Jun-2016 15:47
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SJB:

 

Yep, BBC predicting brexit. Only 70 results left.

 

 

 

 

I've got the shampoo on ice...






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  #1579641 24-Jun-2016 15:51
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sealedI can hardly bear to watch this!!






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  #1579644 24-Jun-2016 15:56
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This sort of protest, as that's what it is, has been building in various parts of the world for a long time now.

 

The advent of the internet has meant that individuals have become a lot better informed (or not if they read the wrong blogs/news) and they resent being ignored by whoever is running the show except every 3 or 4 years when there is an election due.

 

 


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  #1579645 24-Jun-2016 15:56

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MikeB4: I think this process gives our leaders a message. Don't forget the people and maybe we need a referendum for TPP

It also shows the world how a civilised nation decides important matters without a bullet.

 

 

 

It'd rather harden their resolve to avoid holding a referendum at all cost - about anything "important" at all, IMO.

 

Opinion polls have been firmly against TPP, that's been ignored and countered by the old "mandate was granted in the last general election" ploy, bolstered somewhat by support (for TPP) by present and past members for the opposition.

 

There's anti-establishment sentiment all over the democratic world.  Unfortunately (IMO) that's allowing political opportunists to gain traction.  It might be democratic, but democracy always carries the risk of becoming influenced by "mob rule". Good luck to the UK - hopefully enough of the population have enough sense so that things don't descend to chaos.  Where's this going to happen next?

 

 

 

 

Hence, the flag referendum/distraction that virtually no one saw as an immediate issue.


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  #1579646 24-Jun-2016 16:00
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Well according to the BBC I predicted the percentages correctly (52-48). I just got them the wrong way round!


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  #1579647 24-Jun-2016 16:01
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gzt: Mr Key must have been sorely tempted to reactivate his forex trading account recentlly ; ).

 

 

 

Probably has...!






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  #1579648 24-Jun-2016 16:02
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Big, big, BIG smile on my face at the moment.

 

I wont say I called it on page 1 just yet ........... but BIG grin and more than likely $200 better off!


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