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  # 1584162 1-Jul-2016 15:54
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If a scheme to feed kids at school was run by the government it would take more than half the allocated budget to administer the programme





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  # 1584173 1-Jul-2016 16:09
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Then that is clearly not the answer. What other solutions can we come up with?

 

 





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  # 1584381 1-Jul-2016 20:28
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shk292:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Good points that I agree with. I had already decided (thanks to Lorde's example) to donate to the eatmylunch project. I also agree that the government is not the best organisation to run programmes like this, but I do feel it has failed in its responsibility to create and support the conditions for such projects so they don't have to pin their existence on the generosity of people like Lorde.

 

 

Well, someone has to pay for it.  Are you saying that it is better for a middle-income family struggling to pay a mortgage and feed their kids to pay through their taxes to feed other peoples' kids than it is for an insanely wealthy (by most of our standards) young single person with no commitments to pay by means of a donation?

 

 

Wow, no good deed ever goes unpunished on geekzone.

Lorde paying to help the poor vs the middle-income family struggling might not be they only two options here.

It’s worth remembering that the biggest beneficiaries of Lorde’s creativity would be Universal Music and retailers such as Apple. When an Album is sold on iTunes, Apple takes about 30% and yet Apple pay very little tax in New Zealand.

Perhaps that would be another option, for corporations to have fewer tax loopholes available and pay a greater share.

Another option would be for the government to take real action on housing affordability instead of just talking about it.

Then those middle-income families might not be “struggling” quite so much and the poor might not end up spending most of their money on rent and perhaps have more for food.

 

I’m glad she donated.

 

 





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  # 1584585 2-Jul-2016 12:29
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http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/lorde-winning-praise-for-donating-small-rounding-error-from-her-bank-account/

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  # 1584589 2-Jul-2016 12:40
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hangon: http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/lorde-winning-praise-for-donating-small-rounding-error-from-her-bank-account/


And from that same article:

We’ve got kids, about fifty kids that we feed. These are kids who are getting sent to school with jafas, and party mixes, and jetplanes, cola bottle lollies, Cody’s 7%, you name it. They love it, actually. But we give them, you know, oranges.”

Dalton said the children he feeds go “wide-eyed” when they see a piece of fruit.


Don't sound like they need or even appreciate the assistance they're given. Sounds like the parents need a "healthy eating" course instead!

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alexx:

 

 

 

Wow, no good deed ever goes unpunished on geekzone.

Lorde paying to help the poor vs the middle-income family struggling might not be they only two options here.

It’s worth remembering that the biggest beneficiaries of Lorde’s creativity would be Universal Music and retailers such as Apple. When an Album is sold on iTunes, Apple takes about 30% and yet Apple pay very little tax in New Zealand.

Perhaps that would be another option, for corporations to have fewer tax loopholes available and pay a greater share.

Another option would be for the government to take real action on housing affordability instead of just talking about it.

Then those middle-income families might not be “struggling” quite so much and the poor might not end up spending most of their money on rent and perhaps have more for food.

 

I’m glad she donated.

 

 

I think you misunderstood me.  I think it's great that Lorde donated; I think it's far better that people give willingly what they want to, than taxes increased to take money that people have earned.  Wouldn't it be great if people gave so much money in donations that taxes were unnecessary?

 

Same applies for time - it's so great that in NZ, most firefighters are volunteers, doing this valuable work just for personal fulfillment.  


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hangon: http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/lorde-winning-praise-for-donating-small-rounding-error-from-her-bank-account/


And from that same article:

We’ve got kids, about fifty kids that we feed. These are kids who are getting sent to school with jafas, and party mixes, and jetplanes, cola bottle lollies, Cody’s 7%, you name it. They love it, actually. But we give them, you know, oranges.”

Dalton said the children he feeds go “wide-eyed” when they see a piece of fruit.


Don't sound like they need or even appreciate the assistance they're given. Sounds like the parents need a "healthy eating" course instead!

 

 

 

They certainly need something. Not sure a healthy eating course is it though....yell






 
 
 
 


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  # 1584692 2-Jul-2016 16:58
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Hangon

 

 

I don't get people discrediting others for their donations because of the size of their income! How do you know she hasn't made 10 more or 50 more donations that size? Have YOU donated? What was your donation as related to YOUR income?

 

Thanks to you I now know that I never ever ever ever EVER need to read anything from that website again, because of the mind numbing stupidity of what I read on it this one time.

 

Sadly I think my IQ dropped reading it. 


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  # 1584869 2-Jul-2016 21:17
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I don't get people discrediting others for their donations because of the size of their income!



Woo oversensitive?

She donated 20k to feed some kids, that's an fact, how can one discredit a fact?

That link popped up in Google now, and contains something I didn't know. Her accountant made a rounding error left her 40k in hand (taxable income), she didn't mind some tax credit - which suggests she regularly donated, so half of that went this charity - it could have gone to any charity. She spent other half on a mat. Good on her.

Bottom line is she made some random donation to feed some kids, the kids are not really hungry, but not eating healthy

Why the rage?

I thought this thread is about how we ensure kids are well fed n well raised, nothing to do with how much she or anyone earns.

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  # 1584877 2-Jul-2016 21:26
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Jeebus... There's a some weird people on GZ when they don't realise thecivilian.co.nz is a satire website, like the onion... SMFH


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  # 1584878 2-Jul-2016 21:28
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hangon:
networkn:

 

I don't get people discrediting others for their donations because of the size of their income!



Woo oversensitive?

She donated 20k to feed some kids, that's an fact, how can one discredit a fact?

That link popped up in Google now, and contains something I didn't know. Her accountant made a rounding error left her 40k in hand (taxable income), she didn't mind some tax credit - which suggests she regularly donated, so half of that went this charity - it could have gone to any charity. She spent other half on a mat. Good on her.

Bottom line is she made some random donation to feed some kids, the kids are not really hungry, but not eating healthy

Why the rage?

I thought this thread is about how we ensure kids are well fed n well raised, nothing to do with how much she or anyone earns.

 

The Civilian is satire. Heard of The Onion?





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  # 1584889 2-Jul-2016 21:58
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hangon:
networkn:

 

I don't get people discrediting others for their donations because of the size of their income!



Woo oversensitive?

She donated 20k to feed some kids, that's an fact, how can one discredit a fact?

That link popped up in Google now, and contains something I didn't know. Her accountant made a rounding error left her 40k in hand (taxable income), she didn't mind some tax credit - which suggests she regularly donated, so half of that went this charity - it could have gone to any charity. She spent other half on a mat. Good on her.

Bottom line is she made some random donation to feed some kids, the kids are not really hungry, but not eating healthy

Why the rage?

I thought this thread is about how we ensure kids are well fed n well raised, nothing to do with how much she or anyone earns.

 

The rage isn't limited to him. I am so angry right now that if I allowed myself to express it, I would be immediately banned from Geekzone, which I don't want so I am biting my tongue. Some of the comments here are so mean and petty and small-minded that I can only imagine those making them must have had seriously deprived childhoods themselves. Shame on all of you for the cheap shots and crappy insinuations. This kind of thing utterly disgusts me.

 

 

 

 





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  # 1584905 2-Jul-2016 22:44
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hangon: i thought this thread is about how we ensure kids are well fed n well raised, nothing to do with how much she or anyone earns.


The Civilian is satire. Heard of The Onion?


The joke is on me, I had no idea - that herald reference should have raised a red flag but I wasn't thinking

A lesson on not jumping conclusions reading random stuff on the net, even in Google now cards - which clearly needs some tweaks

Let's just stick with how we ensure kids are well fed n well raised

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  # 1584939 3-Jul-2016 00:51
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alexx: It's worth remembering that the biggest beneficiaries of Lorde's creativity would be Universal Music and retailers such as Apple. When an Album is sold on iTunes, Apple takes about 30% and yet Apple pay very little tax in New Zealand. Perhaps that would be another option, for corporations to have fewer tax loopholes available and pay a greater share.

Or yet another option might be for these artists, who seem to get outraged at so many other things, to insist on big corporations being good citizens and actually paying tax?

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  # 1585429 4-Jul-2016 09:49
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Not providing adequate food for a child you are responsible for is a criminal offence.





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