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Topic # 198847 25-Jul-2016 15:28
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Hi all,

 

 

 

Is Rekorderlig Raspberry Lime Cider worth getting and which shops have it in Auckland;s North Shore area?

 

Asking because i'm thinking of getting a box of it for a change from drinking beer.

 

 


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  Reply # 1598264 25-Jul-2016 15:35
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Unless you're in the dry zone out west, most supermarkets have a wide range of single bottles of cider. You could get several different flavours and find which one(s) you like best. Personally I prefer beer, but my Mrs is a big fan of the Orchard Thieves Peach & Passionfruit.


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  Reply # 1598279 25-Jul-2016 15:44
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I'm not much of a cider drinker, so my opinion is probably worthless, but my wife and daughter drink it quite a bit, especially in summer. But my advice is to try the supermarket first - here in Wellington Pakn'Save and Countdown both have it, so I'm sure they would in Auckland too. Then you can just buy one bottle each of a few different flavours and see what you like and what you don't.

 

Once you've figured out whether you like it or not, LiquorLand stock it.


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  Reply # 1598281 25-Jul-2016 15:45
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I like an occasional cider. But I'm finding the Rekorderlig ciders to be too sweet and un-ciderish -- more like alcopop, and no real apple taste.

 

 


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  Reply # 1598289 25-Jul-2016 15:54
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As a former beer drinker - (Coeliac stopped all that) - I quite like cider.

 

But most are pretty much lolly water - extremely sweet and little real flavour.

 

Even some of the NZ boutique brands seems quite a lot like apple juice with alcohol added - We dont have the proper authentic cider apples here unfortunately.

 

Proper cider (try parts of France and England) should be dark gold and can be quite dry with rich flavours. The french even mature some in Oak barrels.

 

You will find if difficult to find these in NZ and at a decent price, but the most pleasant main stream one I have found is the Speights Cider which any supermarket will sell.

 

I reckon thats not a bad place to start your cider adventure - not too sweet and a decent flavour.





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  Reply # 1598320 25-Jul-2016 16:35
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robjg63:

 

As a former beer drinker - (Coeliac stopped all that) - I quite like cider.

 

 

Excuse me for jumping in.... fellow Coeliac and ex-craft beer lover here :-)

 

Have you tried Kereru's gluten-free Auro? It's the best gluten-free beer I've tasted so far. The downside is that at $60 a dozen, it's eye wateringly expensive. It's also a limited run product, with this batch only secured after a round of crowdfunding (which meant I got my box for the "discounted" price of $50).

 

I've also been drinking Hallertau's Luxe. It's not gluten free as such, but is in the contentious class of beer called "gluten removed". They add brewers clarex to it, which is meant to break the gluten down to levels that is safe for Coeliacs to digest. As I say, this is a contentious area though, but many Coeliacs have reported no issues when drinking them. I don't get any obvious symptoms, although I've traditionally been reasonably silent with mine. It may be worth you investigating. Personally, I'm hoping my Coeliac blood levels will guide me here. If they've gone up the next time I get tested, I know it probably wasn't such a smart idea. :-)

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1598357 25-Jul-2016 17:07
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robjg63:

 

As a former beer drinker - (Coeliac stopped all that) - I quite like cider.

 

 

Excuse me for jumping in.... fellow Coeliac and ex-craft beer lover here :-)

 

Have you tried Kereru's gluten-free Auro? It's the best gluten-free beer I've tasted so far. The downside is that at $60 a dozen, it's eye wateringly expensive. It's also a limited run product, with this batch only secured after a round of crowdfunding (which meant I got my box for the "discounted" price of $50).

 

I've also been drinking Hallertau's Luxe. It's not gluten free as such, but is in the contentious class of beer called "gluten removed". They add brewers clarex to it, which is meant to break the gluten down to levels that is safe for Coeliacs to digest. As I say, this is a contentious area though, but many Coeliacs have reported no issues when drinking them. I don't get any obvious symptoms, although I've traditionally been reasonably silent with mine. It may be worth you investigating. Personally, I'm hoping my Coeliac blood levels will guide me here. If they've gone up the next time I get tested, I know it probably wasn't such a smart idea. :-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Jump away by all means.

 

I did try a bottle of the Kereru a year or so back. It wasnt too bad but didnt rock my boat too much.

 

When first diagnosed around 6 years ago, I found 2 GF beers by the end of the first week and was quite pleased. One was the Spanish Estrella Daura which is supposed to have the gluten 'removed', another was a german beer that Countdown sold - made from Sorghum as I recall - so germans probably cant even call it beer by law. The Estrella Daura is made with Barley and sold all over Europe and even has the Crossed grain logo. Of course it tastes just like beer because it is! I dont have immediate reaction either - it seemed ok - but has vanished from the NZ market. The jury is out a bit on the 'gluten removed beers'. I have had several different brands overseas and enjoyed them without obvious problems. Not sure if I really should though. You would think a company would actually test them on Coeliacs! Peroni has a nice tasting GF beer in Italy - and the Italians take Coeliac very seriously. Again - its 'gluten removed' so tastes like the real thing. 

 

The Countdown one was definitely safe for Coeliacs - it had a faint bubblegum aftertaste - but was quite nice in the summer. Its vanished as well. So that just leaves the Scotts Ale as the last fulltime producer - but thats quite a marmalady sort of taste - he uses Buckwheat I think. 

 

I think the nicest GF beer I had was a Sorghum based lager that I made from a kit from the Brewers Co-op in Penrose a couple of times. I was slack this year and havent made any - I wish I had. If you like to muck about with DIY beer its worth a look - the ingredients and recipe costs about $70 to make 23L of beer (30 x 750ml bottles). At least this one is absolutely safe.

 

 

 

Its a pity there doesnt seem to be a big market for GF beer unfortunately.





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  Reply # 1598478 25-Jul-2016 19:56
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Cruciblewrecker:

 

Hi all,

 

 

 

Is Rekorderlig Raspberry Lime Cider worth getting and which shops have it in Auckland;s North Shore area?

 

Asking because i'm thinking of getting a box of it for a change from drinking beer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not in your wildest dreams "cider".

 

It is a mix of carbonated water, pear and apple wines, sugar, acids: citric acid and sodium citric, berry flavours, preservatives, and caramel colour.

 

 


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Fred99: It's not in your wildest dreams "cider".

 

It is a mix of carbonated water, pear and apple wines, sugar, acids: citric acid and sodium citric, berry flavours, preservatives, and caramel colour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a premix, basically.

 

 

 

It's actually a wonder that supermarkets are allowed to sell it at all.





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  Reply # 1598742 26-Jul-2016 09:30
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Fred99: It's not in your wildest dreams "cider".

 

It is a mix of carbonated water, pear and apple wines, sugar, acids: citric acid and sodium citric, berry flavours, preservatives, and caramel colour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a premix, basically.

 

 

 

It's actually a wonder that supermarkets are allowed to sell it at all.

 

 

 

 

I guess that the loophole is that the alcohol content is from fermented pear/apple "wine" rather than distilled spirits as used in RTDs.

 

Kind of a spurious way to distinguish, as your body doesn't care if the C2H6O has been distilled or not, and there are plenty of high(er) alcohol content beers as well as wines on supermarket shelves.

 

The sugar content (sucrose) of that so-called cider is also very high.  Thoroughly unhealthy stuff IMO - and exactly the same target market as RTDs.


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My little brother had some Swedish couch surfers stay with him, and he works at a boozer, so he brought some Rekorderlig home to impress them.

 

 

 

They laughed... "That's what the 15 year old teenyboppers drink in the park."

 


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  Reply # 1598751 26-Jul-2016 09:38
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My wife likes those ciders, but has found certain flavours are only available via certain stores - so the supermarket might sell a-y, but Z is only available at Liquorland stores or along those lines.





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  Reply # 1598787 26-Jul-2016 10:08
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My little brother had some Swedish couch surfers stay with him, and he works at a boozer, so he brought some Rekorderlig home to impress them.

 

 

 

They laughed... "That's what the 15 year old teenyboppers drink in the park."

 


Hahaha

 

 

 

 

I've got a bottle of "Magners" Irish Cider Berry (Pear Cider with Berries) here.  No idea what it tastes like - someone left it behind last weekend.  4% alcohol, 1 standard drink per 330ml bottle.

 

Very hard to find out nutritional information, but it looks like there's no added sugar (vs about as much added sugar as in Coca Cola in the Swedish product).

 

 


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I've bought and tried a number of these "flavoured" ciders, as my wife likes cider, and have found all but one simply too sweet to handle.

 

The exception is one made by Thomas and Rose - it's the No. 3, which is apple and ginger (http://www.thomasandrose.co.nz/flavours.php). This actually resembles a cider in taste and isn't at all sickly, helped by the inclusion of the ginger. At some level, it reminds me of the homemade ginger beer my family used to make when I was a kid. I buy it from Pak 'n' Save, but not sure about its wider availability - certainly worth a go!


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Good on DB for providing a list of nutritional information for all the products they distribute (including Rekorderlig).

 

Those so-called "Ciders" contain more sugar than the RTDs DB have listed.

 

 


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  Reply # 1598827 26-Jul-2016 10:43
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I've bought and tried a number of these "flavoured" ciders, as my wife likes cider, and have found all but one simply too sweet to handle.

 

The exception is one made by Thomas and Rose - it's the No. 3, which is apple and ginger (http://www.thomasandrose.co.nz/flavours.php). This actually resembles a cider in taste and isn't at all sickly, helped by the inclusion of the ginger. At some level, it reminds me of the homemade ginger beer my family used to make when I was a kid. I buy it from Pak 'n' Save, but not sure about its wider availability - certainly worth a go!

 

 

 

 

I'm in love with that one. The ginger just tops it off. On a hot day, nothing hits the spot quite like it for me.

 

 

 

There's also a wonderful brand someone got me a bottle of for my birthday but I can't remember the name. It was old fashioned pressed cider, kind-of thick, and with traces of apple pulp, and no fizz. Simply glorious!





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