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Topic # 201481 20-Aug-2016 12:39
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As most agree, TradeMe is a terrible UX, outside it looks ok.

 

Its search functionality being its main draw back, being limited to what trademe think we want which is so far from reality, if only Ebay had entered NZ for trademe got time to gather force we would be like the rest of the world and have a global market place with a fantastic search engine, all be it not as funky in colours as trademe.

 

Anyway, I want to find a used PC that will get me about 20k 3dmark06.

 

I dont mind having to buy the GPU seperately as long as I have the ability to do so in my tiny budget of $500.

 

Ive seen some old gtx 660 setups with i5s which show up at around 6000 pcmarks under passmark.

 

But its really hard to find the systems, you search for gtx 660 and when you think you have found all there is you just browse and find another one. Its search engine is perhaps not flawed but non functional for a user experience perspective.

 

Also I HATE how trademe allows either new stuff in USED or dealers in private sales.

 

Any tips on how to use the search engine outside " " etc would be appreciated.

 

Also to pull 20k I might have to set my sights on 15k. But im not familiar with AMD cpus which makes things hard.

 

Cheers one and all.


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  Reply # 1614797 20-Aug-2016 12:39
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Hmmmm. Here we go.





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  Reply # 1614807 20-Aug-2016 12:46
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I've got an AMD FX6100, gigabyte GA990FX-UD3, 4GB DDR3 RAM and an AMD Radeon 5770 going for $200 ono (shipping is around $10-12 NZ wide).  This should score around 15K in 2K6 or around 17-18K if overclocked... The old phenom II x3 with the same GPU got around 13K and the FX is a much faster chip.  Doesn't have a heatsink/fan combo for the cpu unfortunately but you could probably grab a cheap case, psu and hdd for less than $100 and then find a cheap heatsink from trademe or in a shop...

 

In general, trademe's searching tools are shocking and really poorly done.  The listing categories etc. just don't work... They should really use tags so that you can tag items across multiple categories, e.g. Enterprise HDDs could be tagged as 'server components' 'HDD' 'Sata' etc. searching would then become more meaningful.

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1614831 20-Aug-2016 14:40
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You could try bidbud. I get it to email me hourly with the latest listings. You can filter by price range etc. I also use it to bid on auctions.

I target a product that is frequently listed with buy nows way below market value. Not sure if this strategy will work for you, the sellers in that market are probably aware of what their item is worth.


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  Reply # 1614846 20-Aug-2016 16:09
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Yeah the search is flippen terrible.  My pet peeve is being limited to one specific location at a time, which results in having to setup say 6 individual searches for cars in all the regions I'm prepared to travel to around Palmerston North, so Wanganui, New Plymouth, Hawkes Bay, Wairarapa, Wellington etc.  5 tick box clicks would get me what I want so easily, but no...


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  Reply # 1614848 20-Aug-2016 16:26
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First, move to Auckland.

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  Reply # 1614855 20-Aug-2016 17:11
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TBH, I wouldn't touch 2nd hand PC's on Trademe, Id rather look at ex-lease from a company that offers some sort of warranty etc. Heard too many horror stories of people buying 2nd hand from TM and not getting what they thought it was, or find parts damaged etc.

 

 





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  Reply # 1614871 20-Aug-2016 17:55
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xpd:

 

TBH, I wouldn't touch 2nd hand PC's on Trademe, Id rather look at ex-lease from a company that offers some sort of warranty etc. Heard too many horror stories of people buying 2nd hand from TM and not getting what they thought it was, or find parts damaged etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

You do have to look out for those ex-lease as they're generally business units so small form factor which can't fit a decent GPU in (I've had some of the HP Core i5 2400 based ones before and they wouldn't fit anything but a really small single slot gpu in that was also 1/2 height.




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  Reply # 1614878 20-Aug-2016 18:20
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i thought those pbtech ex lease type machines wont take anything out of their bios fit, ie chucking in a gpu.


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  Reply # 1614880 20-Aug-2016 18:22
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Saying "I wouldn't touch 2nd hand PC's on Trademe" probably isn't much help. That is the only option for many people. And buying ex-lease from a company doesn't automatically nullify the risks of that option - warranties don't remove all the risks. Benoire highlights a common problem, buyers may not get a good solution for their needs.

 

Anyone buying on Trade Me should be attempting to satisfy their needs/requirements through the range of products available. Each buy usually works out better if you have sufficient details of the item, a realistic idea of the risks, and good measures of the trustworthiness of the vendor.

 

TeaLeaf:

 

Any tips on how to use the search engine outside " " etc would be appreciated.

 

 

There are user issues that you haven't mentioned related to searching on Trade Me:

 

  • Items listed in the wrong category - often traders have used the same category as the previous item(s) they listed; other traders won't be certain which category they should use e.g. home servers which are really desktops being listed in the server category. Often there is more than one suitable category for an item, e.g. Computer | Components versus Computer | Server | Components
  • Items listed with incomplete descriptions. Brand, name and model number or part number would be good but they are often missing.
  • Misspelt descriptions, e.g. additional spaces or spaces missing, swapped letters.

For these reasons, narrow or highly specific searches will often miss good buys. So I tend to do several searches to mop up all the other possibilities that others are likely to miss.

 

Search:

 

  • within the correct category e.g. Computers | Laptops | Laptops
  • across the main category e.g. Computers "laptop"
  • across all categories for keywords using both exact and inexact keywords. So if brand names are spelt wrong then, e.g. "panasonic laptop" could also be "pan* laptop"

Search for items with values up to 50% more than my budget. Many auctions start too high and later reduce to a more reasonable price.

 

Sort the results by price in both directions to get an idea of what will be a good deal at either end.

 

Find which searches work best for you and save them as favourites then wait for them to find what you need.

 

So it helps to be patient.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1614992 21-Aug-2016 09:14
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TeaLeaf:

 

i thought those pbtech ex lease type machines wont take anything out of their bios fit, ie chucking in a gpu.

 

 

Depends on exact machine, but most will happily take a 3rd party gfx card etc, and as for case fitting one, usually pain free to shove components into another case :)

 

Or just get the ex-lease to grab RAM/CPU to use on a decent mobo/case.

 

 





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  Reply # 1615001 21-Aug-2016 09:53
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And I'll again, be careful of BTX motherboards.  Most of the ex-lease HP ones use BTX style motherboards with non-standard PSU's, and motherboard layouts opposite to tower cases... I think Lenovo might still be ok, but it is prudent to check as not all will be able to transfer to a new casing.  With respect to GPUs, most do work but also be aware that most of the ex-lease do not have any spare PCIe/molex connections if the unit was never designed with an external GPU in mind.

 

Personally, I'd look to geekzone 'for sale' areas first, followed by Trademe sellers with verified and then ask questions...

 

but going back to the original question, there is a lot of work trademe need to enhance and streamline both their listing system and also ability to search!


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  Reply # 1615029 21-Aug-2016 11:12
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This seller on Trademe seems pretty reasonable, look at his profile.

 

jkd102

 

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Profile.aspx?member=111354

 

As he is "In Trade" he has to comply with the Fair Trading Act and the Consumer Guarantees Act.

 

You can click on In Trade next to his User Name

 

 

 

I was going to buy an old CPU off him for my very old PC but decided to invest the money in an SSD instead from somewhere else for use on my newer PC.

 

The very old PC is like my test bed for trying different things like W10 upgrade, Cloning SSD etc




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  Reply # 1615450 22-Aug-2016 08:17
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Thanks all, Ive gone off the idea of buying old systems off trademe. We might be getting a new lappy. If not Ive had some good guys email me PCs or parts they are selling I feel more confident in.


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