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  Reply # 1639601 23-Sep-2016 19:54
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As long as the SPCA contains animals waiting for adoption, some of which will be destroyed for the lack of it, I really don't see any need for pet stores selling cats, or breeders breeding them.

As an aside, a lot of the pet animal breeding is fairly awful anyway requiring 'undesirable' animals and the high proportions of genetic disorders generated to be destroyed.

 

I agree for the most part. I love all cats, not just particular breeds, and I don't see a need to create more cats when there is not exactly a shortage of them. However, I also respect that cat breeding and specific breeds are important to some people and there should be a place for that, as long as it can be done responsibly.

 

 





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  Reply # 1639604 23-Sep-2016 20:11
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As long as the SPCA contains animals waiting for adoption, some of which will be destroyed for the lack of it, I really don't see any need for pet stores selling cats, or breeders breeding them.

As an aside, a lot of the pet animal breeding is fairly awful anyway requiring 'undesirable' animals and the high proportions of genetic disorders generated to be destroyed.


I agree for the most part. I love all cats, not just particular breeds, and I don't see a need to create more cats when there is not exactly a shortage of them. However, I also respect that cat breeding and specific breeds are important to some people and there should be a place for that, as long as it can be done responsibly.


 


Depends what you can responsible. Here's a list of issues from a cat breeders association:

http://cfa.org/Breeders/CatColorsGenetics/GeneticDisorders,Part1.aspx
http://cfa.org/Breeders/CatColorsGenetics/GeneticDisorders,Part2.aspx

It does not give incidence but some are very common. All to get a colour or some other arbitrary aesthetic quality.

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  Reply # 1639606 23-Sep-2016 20:29
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Last I checked, the cats in New Zealand didn't swim here by themselves. We introduced them; along with rats, stoats, pigs, deer, etc.

 

I approve of feral cat numbers being culled back. All pet owners should have their animals fixed. Sadly so many don't and there are many thousands of unwanted cats.


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  Reply # 1639607 23-Sep-2016 20:47
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Last I checked, the cats in New Zealand didn't swim here by themselves. We introduced them; along with rats, stoats, pigs, deer, etc.

 

I approve of feral cat numbers being culled back. All pet owners should have their animals fixed. Sadly so many don't and there are many thousands of unwanted cats.

 

 

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Invasive species in New Zealand

Mammals

    Cat
    Chamois
    Common brushtail possum
    Dog
    European hare
    Ferret
    Goat
    European hedgehog
    Himalayan tahr
    Horse
    House mouse
    Moose
    European rabbit
    Norway rat
    Black rat
    Stoat
    Wallaby

Plus various birds, invertebrates, fish, and plants.





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  Reply # 1639608 23-Sep-2016 20:52
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Can I add the most voracious predator of them all?

 

Humans.


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  Reply # 1639650 23-Sep-2016 23:01
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I'm definitely in the anti-cat brigade.

 

.22 air rifles work well.

 

 

 

 

I'm anti the idiots that introduced creatures that have no place being where they ended up.

 

That'd take a bit more than a .22 air rifle to deal with.





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  Reply # 1639651 23-Sep-2016 23:07
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DarthKermit: All pet owners should have their animals fixed. Sadly so many don't and there are many thousands of unwanted cats.

 

 

 

 

Yup. Got mine fixed. She has a strict curfew too.

 

Cats can sometimes help keep rodent populations down. Those vicious little (sometimes cute & cuddly) buggers like birds too. They'll devastate a nest and munch-out on the eggs too.





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  Reply # 1639655 23-Sep-2016 23:35
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Yup. Got mine fixed. She has a strict curfew too.

 

Cats can sometimes help keep rodent populations down. Those vicious little (sometimes cute & cuddly) buggers like birds too. They'll devastate a nest and munch-out on the eggs too.

 

 

Good, those things make a real noise on the roof and crap all over the car.

 

 





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  Reply # 1639662 24-Sep-2016 00:57
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Is it because of the bird hunting thing or would you not like them even if they didn't hunt?

 

 

 

I don't actually dislike cats as such (I mean cmon cute and furry etc), I just dislike other peoples animals coming onto my property, killing birds, pissing, pooping, etc. I'd have exactly the same issue with dogs or fish if they came onto my property and did those things. If cats were microchipped, and the owners got large fines for them roaming off their property, it would be far less of a problem. 





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  Reply # 1639663 24-Sep-2016 01:55
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I'd have exactly the same issue with dogs or fish if they came onto my property and did those things.

 

 

I have a large fence that keeps all marauding fish off my section. tongue-out


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  Reply # 1639664 24-Sep-2016 04:38
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gbwelly:

 

 

 

Is it because of the bird hunting thing or would you not like them even if they didn't hunt?

 

 

 

I don't actually dislike cats as such (I mean cmon cute and furry etc), I just dislike other peoples animals coming onto my property, killing birds, pissing, pooping, etc. I'd have exactly the same issue with dogs or fish if they came onto my property and did those things. If cats were microchipped, and the owners got large fines for them roaming off their property, it would be far less of a problem. 

 

 

Have you gone over to all your neighbours and explained to them the situation? Or are you just shooting cats without giving the owner a chance to 'teach' their cat to stay away from your property?


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  Reply # 1639668 24-Sep-2016 05:33
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Lias:

 

 

 

I'd have exactly the same issue with dogs or fish if they came onto my property and did those things.

 

 

I have a large fence that keeps all marauding fish off my section. tongue-out

 

 

Sounds familiar - hope you made the fish pay for that big fence.




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  Reply # 1639723 24-Sep-2016 09:56
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  Reply # 1639727 24-Sep-2016 10:09
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I'm ripped about how murderous cats get away with anything.  Especially when I have to pay a license fee, get our property fenced, and have to send our beautiful wee pup "Bonzo" off to be desexed.