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  Reply # 1659726 28-Oct-2016 13:04
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The cops have been using these tactics for *years*.

 

Back in about 1995, Labour Day, at 4pm, the cops had a checkpoint just north of Waiouru, stopping all southbound vehicles for a breath-test. If that was a genuine attempt to catch drunk drivers, then it really is Keystone Kops to allow those drunk drivers to drive for an hour across the Desert Rd before stopping them. A sane strategy would have been to have the checkpoint at the *Northern* end of the Desert Rd.

 

 

 

 

1995 wow, that's relevant.

 

 

In the context of "The cops have been using these tactics for *years*."... yes, absolutely relevant.

 

 




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  Reply # 1659752 28-Oct-2016 13:28
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I think the coroner put a bug up their donkey and they massively overreacted, just like they did with Dotcom. Same keystone klowns, same open-mouthed astonishment when people tell them this isn't how it is done in a country that respects rule of law.

 

 





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  Reply # 1659755 28-Oct-2016 13:31
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I guess its easy to denigrate from afar and with third party information. I would love to see the knockers do their job, wouldn't see lunch time on the first day. 

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1659801 28-Oct-2016 13:55
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Apart from anything else, this was a gross violation of the Bill of Rights, an unwarranted invasion of privacy into these people's lives, apparently an illegal exercise of police powers (to be investigated), and just generally a really stupid, poorly thought out thing to do. The sh!t is now hitting the fan in a big way, and those responsible for these actions are rightly being held to account. That is the positive, so I guess we don't live in a police state yet after all. But this never should have been allowed to happen in the first place, and it wouldn't have if anyone with a shred of judgement and common sense had just said wait a moment, maybe we should think about this.

 

The inference from reading between the lines of different reports (no-one is actually saying it as far as I know), is that there was a cluster of suicides amongst elderly people that caused a coroner to ask the police to look into it, which precipitated this action. Whether the coroner (or the police or anyone else) was influenced by the current euthanasia hearings underway is an open question, but a lot of emotional posturing has been happening as different interest groups dig in and there is a strong suspicion, probably not unwarranted, that this was at least in part a blatant attempt to intimidate and influence pro-euthanasia advocates. I find this utterly outrageous and from that stems any name-calling I may have done. The police have a fundamental duty to stay far away from all sides of any political issues.

 

Assisted suicide is still illegal and if anyone has been helping others along this route, then there is a legitimate basis for police investigation. But not in the ham-fisted way they have gone about it. Not only was it unprofessional and insensitive in the extreme, but they may have broken several laws in the process. This is now being investigated.

 

 





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