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Reply # 1722345 18-Feb-2017 17:51

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Grats on 200 pages Donald!!

If he doesn't get assassinated soon, Tim A will have the record for starting the longest thread on Geekzone!!

Assassination would be a mistake.
Forgetting morality of doing such a thing, it's counter-productive as the alt:right fascists surrounding Trump would capitalise on such an event (and the "sympathy vote") to strengthen their cause.

Better IMO to enjoy watching Trump's drawn-out political suicide.

His increasingly intense (and rambling) attacks on the media suggest to me he's preempting imminent release of something particularly damning.

The thing is that what he is saying does ring true for many. The longer he is in power, and more he repeats things, people are just going to hear it more. For example the whole fake news stuff (or the now Very Fake News) is quite true to an extent, in todays fastpaced news world, with all the click bait. Many of the clickbait headings are fake news, and when you click into them you feel like you have been misled. NZ media is the same. The media are their own worst enermy. Maybe Trumpo is on a crusade to stop clickbait?

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Reply # 1722351 18-Feb-2017 18:15

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mattwnz:

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... The media are their own worst enemy. Maybe Trumpo is on a crusade to stop clickbait?

Trumpo is on a crusade for more money and more publicity, as he has been all of his life.

He is blinded by his own inflated ego.

He is quite possibly a "useful fool" (polezniye duraki) being manipulated by Russia - with or without his knowledge.

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Reply # 1722392 18-Feb-2017 18:54

joker97:

As long as that someone is working for the Don, he's untouchable. Yes, half wants him out, but the other half is completely with/for him.

Several people have shown you that that is factually wrong. Please stop spreading that lie.

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Reply # 1722393 18-Feb-2017 19:04

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mattwnz:

Fred99:

Fabian:
Pumpedd:

Grats on 200 pages Donald!!

If he doesn't get assassinated soon, Tim A will have the record for starting the longest thread on Geekzone!!

Assassination would be a mistake.
Forgetting morality of doing such a thing, it's counter-productive as the alt:right fascists surrounding Trump would capitalise on such an event (and the "sympathy vote") to strengthen their cause.

Better IMO to enjoy watching Trump's drawn-out political suicide.

His increasingly intense (and rambling) attacks on the media suggest to me he's preempting imminent release of something particularly damning.

The thing is that what he is saying does ring true for many. The longer he is in power, and more he repeats things, people are just going to hear it more. For example the whole fake news stuff (or the now Very Fake News) is quite true to an extent, in todays fastpaced news world, with all the click bait. Many of the clickbait headings are fake news, and when you click into them you feel like you have been misled. NZ media is the same. The media are their own worst enermy. Maybe Trumpo is on a crusade to stop clickbait?

Of course it "rings true" for many. Trump clearly identified that he had a core support of people who'd still vote for him if he was to shoot someone dead in the street.

If there's been a mistake made in the Trump/Bannon quarter, it was probably underestimating the reaction from "liberals". They aren't all "snowflakes".

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Reply # 1722414 18-Feb-2017 20:10

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joker97:

Trump might look dumb in front of the media but I assure you someone who destroyed Hillary using all kinds of unorthodox Russian-style gambits have the Senate covered. If he were smart he'd start with planting moles in the CIA, FBI, ... everything the internet and the social media has thrown at him has only made him stronger ... he ain't going anywhere fast

You give him far too much credit. He won as Brexit won, not by his skill or virtues. , but by public sentiment, and in this case they were wrong.

His attitude, his ego, has made him weaker. He reacts, via his ego, and not via statesmanship.

Who loves him? Look globally. If there was a US election tomorrow, who wins?

There is no election tomorrow, so democracy wins, but democracy doesn't means its 4 years either.

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Reply # 1722417 18-Feb-2017 20:13

Fred99:

Fabian:
Pumpedd:

Grats on 200 pages Donald!!

If he doesn't get assassinated soon, Tim A will have the record for starting the longest thread on Geekzone!!

Assassination would be a mistake.
Forgetting morality of doing such a thing, it's counter-productive as the alt:right fascists surrounding Trump would capitalise on such an event (and the "sympathy vote") to strengthen their cause.

Better IMO to enjoy watching Trump's drawn-out political suicide.

His increasingly intense (and rambling) attacks on the media suggest to me he's preempting imminent release of something particularly damning.

It is live now. On TV1, 2 3, Sky, CNN, BBC, and so on.

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Reply # 1722418 18-Feb-2017 20:14

Fred99:

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Trump might look dumb in front of the media but I assure you someone who destroyed Hillary using all kinds of unorthodox Russian-style gambits have the Senate covered. ...

The "someone" may not have been Donald Trump ...

True - the words may have come out of his mouth, but I doubt that the ideas/strategy came out of his head.

I never followed Trump with much interest before his political moves. Perhaps he was once cunning and smart? He isn't now.

'He is actually, but cunning and smart in business, does not cut in in the real world, as in POTUS

Edit" IN fact cunning and smart is ideal for the business world, but in politics you need to be

1. Interested in the people.

2. Ego and wealth was my last life

I feel JK had those, he had no real need. Problem with DT is his ego has a real need. Short term and narrow memory doesnt really help him

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Reply # 1722430 18-Feb-2017 20:21

JayADee: Some media called Enemy of the American people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/business/trump-calls-the-news-media-the-enemy-of-the-people.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Trump tweeted
The FAKE NEWS media (failing @nytimes, @NBCNews, @ABC, @CBS, @CNN) is not my enemy, it is the enemy of the American People!

Yeah, knew he wasn't going to like the press coverage spin on the press conference.

Yeah, all the media do is tell lies. I hate that too. They need to call me, I like them, I really do. Its fantastic. Me, and them, and Vlad can work together, it will be great, it will be bigly for all us.

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Reply # 1722432 18-Feb-2017 20:24

mattwnz:

Fred99:

Fabian:
Pumpedd:

Grats on 200 pages Donald!!

If he doesn't get assassinated soon, Tim A will have the record for starting the longest thread on Geekzone!!

Assassination would be a mistake.
Forgetting morality of doing such a thing, it's counter-productive as the alt:right fascists surrounding Trump would capitalise on such an event (and the "sympathy vote") to strengthen their cause.

Better IMO to enjoy watching Trump's drawn-out political suicide.

His increasingly intense (and rambling) attacks on the media suggest to me he's preempting imminent release of something particularly damning.

The thing is that what he is saying does ring true for many. The longer he is in power, and more he repeats things, people are just going to hear it more. For example the whole fake news stuff (or the now Very Fake News) is quite true to an extent, in todays fastpaced news world, with all the click bait. Many of the clickbait headings are fake news, and when you click into them you feel like you have been misled. NZ media is the same. The media are their own worst enermy. Maybe Trumpo is on a crusade to stop clickbait?

Clickbait is a bit above him, he would probily think your talking carp or bass.

But he is like bad ads. We hate them, BUT we know them extremely well. Maybe Marketing 201

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Reply # 1722490 18-Feb-2017 21:56

tdgeek:

Clickbait is a bit above him, he would probily think your talking carp or bass.

But he is like bad ads. We hate them, BUT we know them extremely well. Maybe Marketing 201

It's way beyond Marketing 201:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica

OTOH, I expect that Trump's opposition / Democrats use the same methods.

Welcome to the "post truth" world.

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Reply # 1722491 18-Feb-2017 22:01

tdgeek:

Clickbait is a bit above him, he would probily think your talking carp or bass.

Clickbait is a way of making money. So smart! The American dream. Give people fake news! And make them pay for it! Fantastic!

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Reply # 1722496 18-Feb-2017 22:32

There is nothing new about this, just a different form. Supermarket tabloids have been making money in America from fake news for many years, since at least before the War. Where do you think all those stories about alien abductions and Elvis come from? It is as much part of the American gestalt as Coca-Cola and driving your Chevy to the levee.

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Reply # 1722508 19-Feb-2017 00:12

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This is still a great read if you want to see how long he's been "all about donald".

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

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Reply # 1722526 19-Feb-2017 07:48

blakamin:

This is still a great read if you want to see how long he's been "all about donald".

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all

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Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All

“I put lipstick on a pig,” he said.

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Reply # 1722533 19-Feb-2017 09:12

That was well worth a read, thanks.

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