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  Reply # 1743995 19-Mar-2017 18:42
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Germany at least is spending large on refugees. Whilst absorbing so many into Germany isnt a oewrfect answer for the problem, at least they have shown some degree of responsibility. IMO it is America who was the major contributor to the European refugee crisis by sitting back and watching Asad destroy the country and allow terrorism to enter. America got rid of tyrants in other countries but left Syria to stew and then didnt help squat with the refugees. By doing nothing it allowed Russia and others to enter to make matters a whole lot worse.

 

 

"At least"? Rest assured, I have yet to meet a single European who is thanking them for that. Remember that the refugees, once in the EU and in possession of documents, are free to move to whatever EU country they like...!

 

 

I know literally dozens of EU citizens that are either relatives, work colleagues, friends or associates who support taking refugees as Germany has. And of course many that don't, but to assert that no one supports this suggests to me you live in a 'bubble' of only like-minded people that is not representative of Europeans generally.





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  Reply # 1744037 19-Mar-2017 20:21
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I wasn't going to reenter this quagmire but military expenditure is of interest to me. Germany spends circa $40 Billion per annum and rank 9th. With the other issues they have that is more than enough, they should tel the USA to go take a jump.

 

 

 

 

I agree

 

I really hope the world can forge a decent trade block without America....that administration deserves some steep lessons in being a good global citizen etc.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1744143 19-Mar-2017 22:35
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I wasn't going to reenter this quagmire but military expenditure is of interest to me. Germany spends circa $40 Billion per annum and rank 9th. With the other issues they have that is more than enough, they should tel the USA to go take a jump.

 

 

Perhaps that's exactly the point - under domestic political pressure, Germany will tell the USA to go take a jump.

 

Meanwhile at a G20 meeting in Germany, the US has effectively shifted dialogue away from commitment against trade protectionism, and also against commitment to the Paris accord, this won't please German industrialists, nor the strong green movement.

 

Germany is in a difficult position, as they presently have a considerable trade imbalance with the USA, exports to the US are about double imports and the USA is Germany's single largest export market.

 

I have no doubt Trump wants to destroy European unity for his own reasons - it's easier to bully individual small nations than a large bloc.  One of those reasons is anti-liberalism, which is against his authoritarian agenda.  It will also greatly please Russia.


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  Reply # 1744147 19-Mar-2017 22:42
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To be fair, he also appealed to a whole lot of middle class Americans who weren't racist, misogynist, or bigotted. Probably not even stupid. They realised they were getting shafted, and wanted change.

 

 

How were they "getting shafted"?
(or who was "shafting" them - the cronies now firmly entrenched in positions of power in Trump's administration, or "liberals" trying to reduce cost of healthcare, protect against fraud by financial institutions, and to shift the burden of taxation back to corporations and individuals who've been gaming the system for the past 1/2 century?)


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  Reply # 1744189 20-Mar-2017 07:22
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frankv:

 

To be fair, he also appealed to a whole lot of middle class Americans who weren't racist, misogynist, or bigotted. Probably not even stupid. They realised they were getting shafted, and wanted change.

 

 

How were they "getting shafted"?
(or who was "shafting" them - the cronies now firmly entrenched in positions of power in Trump's administration, or "liberals" trying to reduce cost of healthcare, protect against fraud by financial institutions, and to shift the burden of taxation back to corporations and individuals who've been gaming the system for the past 1/2 century?)

 

 

Oh, I agree totally. The super-wealthy and corporates paying no/little tax, not paying for their environmental damage, defrauding investors, etc have shifted the burden on the middle class. And Trump is perhaps the worst of that lot, so perhaps it *was* stupid to elect him President. But a quasi-"liberal" like Clinton wouldn't have improved things.

 

The choice all the way from the Primaries to the Presidential election was between someone who thought this situation was OK and someone who at least *said* he would solve it, albeit in ways that were ridiculous. Regretfully, the voters decided that Saunders was too ridiculous, and Trump wasn't.

 

 


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  Reply # 1744190 20-Mar-2017 07:23
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on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000


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  Reply # 1744194 20-Mar-2017 07:28
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Pumpedd:

 

MikeB4:

 

I wasn't going to reenter this quagmire but military expenditure is of interest to me. Germany spends circa $40 Billion per annum and rank 9th. With the other issues they have that is more than enough, they should tel the USA to go take a jump.

 

 

 

 

I agree

 

I really hope the world can forge a decent trade block without America....that administration deserves some steep lessons in being a good global citizen etc.

 

 

 

 

The USA needs to learn that 96% of the worlds population are NOT US citizens .

 

In the 1960s the USA made up about 60% of the worlds GDP, today it makes up about 20% and falling. Loosing trade access to the USA will hurt, for a while, but the world WILL recover, the USA will not.

 

The USA was NEVER "great", their "peak USA" was the 1950-1970 and that was ONLY because of WWII, they were the only large, populated, industrialised country with large natural resources who did not need to rebuild after WWII. Instead they sold goods to the rest of the world and made a LOT of money from it.

 

Europe and Asia have rebuilt and modernised, they are no longer dependant on the USA for rebuilding schools, roads, bridges, power generation, water, hospitals, etc etc etc etc etc.

 

Trade agreements with the USA are no longer "do as you are told", they are loosing many battles in the WTO (which was set up by the US for the benefits of the US), the US is loosing authority all around the world and they don't like it. The result is the US meddling in other countries affairs, starting wars, projecting their power to weaken those who would say "no".


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  Reply # 1744198 20-Mar-2017 07:32
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on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000

 

 

 

 

Simple law change "licensing" can be not more than 10% of total business costs otherwise the business is deemed non viable

 

Licensing costs can ONLY be paid to the country of origin as deemed by the IRD (e.g. USA for Apple et al).

 

Tax evasion fines will be based on the companies world wide turnover as assessed by the IRD


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  Reply # 1744200 20-Mar-2017 07:38
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Pumpedd:

 

MikeB4:

 

I wasn't going to reenter this quagmire but military expenditure is of interest to me. Germany spends circa $40 Billion per annum and rank 9th. With the other issues they have that is more than enough, they should tel the USA to go take a jump.

 

 

 

 

I agree

 

I really hope the world can forge a decent trade block without America....that administration deserves some steep lessons in being a good global citizen etc.

 

 

 

 

The USA needs to learn that 96% of the worlds population are NOT US citizens .

 

In the 1960s the USA made up about 60% of the worlds GDP, today it makes up about 20% and falling. Loosing trade access to the USA will hurt, for a while, but the world WILL recover, the USA will not.

 

The USA was NEVER "great", their "peak USA" was the 1950-1970 and that was ONLY because of WWII, they were the only large, populated, industrialised country with large natural resources who did not need to rebuild after WWII. Instead they sold goods to the rest of the world and made a LOT of money from it.

 

Europe and Asia have rebuilt and modernised, they are no longer dependant on the USA for rebuilding schools, roads, bridges, power generation, water, hospitals, etc etc etc etc etc.

 

Trade agreements with the USA are no longer "do as you are told", they are loosing many battles in the WTO (which was set up by the US for the benefits of the US), the US is loosing authority all around the world and they don't like it. The result is the US meddling in other countries affairs, starting wars, projecting their power to weaken those who would say "no".

 

 

100%

 

China is a big power, Japan, S Korea, Europe, UK. The USA is "a" power now, amongst many. They should cooperate rather than assume we are No. 1 we are everything


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  Reply # 1744214 20-Mar-2017 08:30
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on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000

 

 

Prezactly. My feeling is that if Apple pays no tax in NZ, they should get no benefit from the things that taxes provide. Like police protecting their stores, Customs processing their goods, courts protecting their IP, etc.

 

 


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  Reply # 1744220 20-Mar-2017 08:44
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frankv:

 

joker97:

 

on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000

 

 

Prezactly. My feeling is that if Apple pays no tax in NZ, they should get no benefit from the things that taxes provide. Like police protecting their stores, Customs processing their goods, courts protecting their IP, etc.

 

 

 

 

So NZ should pay tax in the US for selling burger beef, in the UK for selling lamb, and in China for selling milk powder?

 

IMO the "problem" - if there is one - is that Apple tend to not pay much tax at all - anywhere. On that basis, the most ripped-off of all is probably California.

 

 


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  Reply # 1744237 20-Mar-2017 09:07
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frankv:

 

joker97:

 

on the news the other day, Apple's NZ tax payment for 2016 was $0.00000

 

 

Prezactly. My feeling is that if Apple pays no tax in NZ, they should get no benefit from the things that taxes provide. Like police protecting their stores, Customs processing their goods, courts protecting their IP, etc.

 

 

 

 

So NZ should pay tax in the US for selling burger beef, in the UK for selling lamb, and in China for selling milk powder?

 

IMO the "problem" - if there is one - is that Apple tend to not pay much tax at all - anywhere. On that basis, the most ripped-off of all is probably California.

 

 

 

 

I think Apple is an Irish company! Thats where they are corporate based and their dosh sits there or from there IIRC. They reckon they do oay their fair share of tax, bit maybe not to the US. And I assume the US tax laws make offshoring funds beneficial


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  Reply # 1744243 20-Mar-2017 09:11
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Trump approval rating (Source)

 

Heading in the right direction (IMO) though minor ups and downs are within the margin of error.

 

Still a way to go before full-scale panic sets in with the GOP and they turn on Trump and impeach him.  Not sure what that point would be, impeaching Trump would inflict a massive body-blow to the GOP. They also have the problem that VP Pence suffers charisma bypass surgery and is a committed religious nutter.

 

Nixon hit 25% approval rating before he quit.  Trump's clearly not going to be the quitting type.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1744247 20-Mar-2017 09:19
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tdgeek:

 

 

 

I think Apple is an Irish company! Thats where they are corporate based and their dosh sits there or from there IIRC. They reckon they do oay their fair share of tax, bit maybe not to the US. And I assume the US tax laws make offshoring funds beneficial

 

 

Presumably it's fairly obvious that I'd be called a "liberal". However, the way that global corporates are able to legally evade paying tax on profits, and the distortions to "free" trade in goods and services that happen as a result, make me think that a system based on taxing income and profit is doomed.  


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  Reply # 1744248 20-Mar-2017 09:23
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What happened to the idea several years ago of taxation based on environmental loading?

 

 





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