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  Reply # 1821677 13-Jul-2017 10:38
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IMHO, Chump is the first candidate that apparently makes big bucks who can be bothered to run for POTUS. 

 

 

Ross Perot gave it a shot in 1992 and 1996.


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  Reply # 1821766 13-Jul-2017 12:17
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It's too bad Rupert Murdoch wasn't born in the US. Otherwise he could cut out the middle man and just have the contents of the US Treasury funneled directly into his bank account.





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  Reply # 1821802 13-Jul-2017 12:56
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Trump does have a defense. Trump's entire defense is an attack on Clinton. He's still using it.

Clinton can easily get the next democratic nomination and seems to want it. The Clinton Foundation has tons of influence to throw around. Of course it would be a disaster.

The democratic party needs to work out a new deal for America and present that to the electorate. Unfortunately there is no sign of anyone breaking ranks to begin that process.

 

And his supporters are still buying it.

 

Look at the replies to any of his tweets and you'll still have people saying "lock her up" and "where are the emails?" and she's a "war criminal".

 

Unless they get someone else, the democrats are probably screwed at the next election too.


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gzt:
Trump does have a defense. Trump's entire defense is an attack on Clinton. He's still using it.

Clinton can easily get the next democratic nomination and seems to want it. The Clinton Foundation has tons of influence to throw around. Of course it would be a disaster.

The democratic party needs to work out a new deal for America and present that to the electorate. Unfortunately there is no sign of anyone breaking ranks to begin that process.

 

And his supporters are still buying it.

 

Look at the replies to any of his tweets and you'll still have people saying "lock her up" and "where are the emails?" and she's a "war criminal".

 

Unless they get someone else, the democrats are probably screwed at the next election too.

 

 

Until the US public wakes up to the fact that they're being fed a diet of outrageous bias WRT "standards" a republican white male must meet versus what's needed by anybody else, then the entire population is going to get screwed over indefinitely.

 

 


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  Reply # 1821871 13-Jul-2017 13:41
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  Reply # 1822042 13-Jul-2017 16:58
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Fox changed it's slogan to “Most watched. Most Trusted.” a couple months back.

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  Reply # 1822066 13-Jul-2017 17:35
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The demographics behind that name change make a remarkable statement about how divided America is:

 


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  Reply # 1822069 13-Jul-2017 17:40
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gzt: Fox changed it's slogan to “Most watched. Most Trusted.” a couple months back.

 

NY Times, 14 June 2017: Fox News Drops ‘Fair and Balanced’ Motto

 

One senior network official emphasized that the slogan was officially dropped last August and virtually no one had noticed.

 

Another Fox slogan, “We Report, You Decide,” has also been retired, although the network said that it returned occasionally.





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  Reply # 1822111 13-Jul-2017 20:26
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The same question still applies laughing


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  Reply # 1822257 14-Jul-2017 09:25
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The demographics behind that name change make a remarkable statement about how divided America is:

 

 

The biggest surprise there is that Fox has the highest "trustworthiness" rating among independents, I wouldn't have expected that.


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You are talking about America. Fox has bamboozled a lot of people there. Also, 'independent' does not necessarily mean 'progressive'. A lot of those people may rank Fox with the 'liberal' media. The real alt-right is convinced that everything is a huge government conspiracy.

 

 





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  Reply # 1822344 14-Jul-2017 11:09
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Rikkitic:

 

You are talking about America. Fox has bamboozled a lot of people there. Also, 'independent' does not necessarily mean 'progressive'. A lot of those people may rank Fox with the 'liberal' media.

 

 

My brother lives in the USA and voted for Trump. He's not stupid or racist or sexist or xenophobic or islamophobic. The reasons for that vote were that he wanted change, and didn't trust Hillary. I believe that a lot of Americans are in the same boat.

 

Despite me, um, "sharing my concerns" about Trump, I believe my brother still supports him (although the vehemence seems to have dropped a notch). One argument that he used was that we outsiders are fed a diet of distortion and fake news by CNN et al. And, having recently visited there, I can confirm that the news we see *is* different from what they see. For one thing, there's a lot more Trump on our news than theirs. And of course Trump news is all negative (there being no actual positives, IMHO). But my point is that we are equally bamboozled by whatever news sources we rely on. It could even be that Fox is right.

 

Another interesting thing is that Trump really isn't all that important to Americans (presumably that's why he's not on the news as much). They have a great deal of faith in their Constitution and legal systems and so on to filter any radical ideas that *any* American (President, Senator, judge, general, or Joe Public) into a moderate change. So it doesn't matter terribly to have a crazy POTUS because the checks and balances will keep the country from doing anything crazy. I think that Bernie Sanders (viewed by many as a loony left pinko) got to be a Senator on the same basis... he's kinda crazy, but has some good ideas.

 

 

The real alt-right is convinced that everything is a huge government conspiracy.

 

 

The alt.left too. ;)

 

 


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  Reply # 1822346 14-Jul-2017 11:09
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The demographics behind that name change make a remarkable statement about how divided America is:



Have to ask what proportion of Americans have cable TV. Not all of those are FTA.

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frankv:

 

Rikkitic:

 

You are talking about America. Fox has bamboozled a lot of people there. Also, 'independent' does not necessarily mean 'progressive'. A lot of those people may rank Fox with the 'liberal' media.

 

 

My brother lives in the USA and voted for Trump. He's not stupid or racist or sexist or xenophobic or islamophobic. The reasons for that vote were that he wanted change, and didn't trust Hillary. I believe that a lot of Americans are in the same boat.

 

Despite me, um, "sharing my concerns" about Trump, I believe my brother still supports him (although the vehemence seems to have dropped a notch). One argument that he used was that we outsiders are fed a diet of distortion and fake news by CNN et al. And, having recently visited there, I can confirm that the news we see *is* different from what they see. For one thing, there's a lot more Trump on our news than theirs. And of course Trump news is all negative (there being no actual positives, IMHO). But my point is that we are equally bamboozled by whatever news sources we rely on. It could even be that Fox is right.

 

Another interesting thing is that Trump really isn't all that important to Americans (presumably that's why he's not on the news as much). They have a great deal of faith in their Constitution and legal systems and so on to filter any radical ideas that *any* American (President, Senator, judge, general, or Joe Public) into a moderate change. So it doesn't matter terribly to have a crazy POTUS because the checks and balances will keep the country from doing anything crazy. I think that Bernie Sanders (viewed by many as a loony left pinko) got to be a Senator on the same basis... he's kinda crazy, but has some good ideas.

 

 

The real alt-right is convinced that everything is a huge government conspiracy.

 

 

The alt.left too. ;)

 

 

 

 

What I bolded is what I have always thought. Its a common issue in elections when one party has been in power for a while. Plus, not being a politician can easily be seen as a positive, especially given how Americans view politicians in general


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@frankv:

 

Another interesting thing is that Trump really isn't all that important to Americans (presumably that's why he's not on the news as much). They have a great deal of faith in their Constitution and legal systems and so on to filter any radical ideas that *any* American (President, Senator, judge, general, or Joe Public) into a moderate change. So it doesn't matter terribly to have a crazy POTUS because the checks and balances will keep the country from doing anything crazy. I think that Bernie Sanders (viewed by many as a loony left pinko) got to be a Senator on the same basis... he's kinda crazy, but has some good ideas.

 

 

What people seem to ignore is that a Constitution is as good as the people defending it. How many times we've seen countries with good Constitutions just going down the path of dictatorships? A weak leader, a revolt and some opportunist that can claim "I alone can solve this!" followed by "But I need you to understand some changes are needed" and down goes the Constitution...





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