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  #1670450 14-Nov-2016 08:50
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freitasm: Civil Defense says tsunami risk for East Coast incl Wellington and South Island. Get away from sea.


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  #1670452 14-Nov-2016 08:53
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Biggest effect here in Wairarapa is that my wife will be home disturbing my day because the trains are not going!





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Gilco2:

 

So much for Civil Defence alerts. Knew nothing about earthquake until woke up and checked computer for email and see there has been an earthquake.   Never felt it here at Papamoa.  All the civil defence tests I have received texts and now a real possible threat and receive nothing. No texts no emails just nothing so whats the point having a system that doesn't work when real possible threat.  No tsunami sirens here.   ha ha just now received 3 texts all 8.18am telling to go higher ground next one downgraded and 3rd one saying just marine threat still exists.  A bit late getting them now. So definitely leaves a lot to be desired.

 

 

Tauranga civil defense is a complete shambles. Tauranga has a large coastal population , it is inconceivable the bureaucrats cannot get a warning system sorted. 

 

The local politicians bumbled around since i moved here 12 years ago.   

 

They tried to install electric sirens at one stage, but they were whisper quiet therefore ineffective.  While they were installing them, a member of public tested out their own air raid  type siren which was awesome.... but, this derailed the further installation of the useless electronic sirens. 

 

So, they moved to txt based alerts , which always work during their 'tests' , but rarely work during real events.   eg, during the last real EQ (before this one) neither my partner or I received the txt. 

 

In fact, it was my mum who woke me up last night, called us from Auckland to make sure we knew about this.    I even received txt from overseas before local CD. 

 

 

 

 




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  #1670493 14-Nov-2016 09:57
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Update from Spark regarding 111:

 

 

The 111 operator service is up and functioning normally.

 

However, some people have experienced, and will still be experiencing, issues calling 111 if they are in the Kaikoura or North Canterbury area, as communications in and out of some communities have been severely impacted by the earthquakes. As some local communications are still working, people may be able to contact local emergency services directly. Spark is sending engineers into affected local areas to restore any impacted 111 connectivity as soon as possible.

 

For a period of approximately 30 minutes immediately following this morning’s first earthquake at 12.05am, the 111 operator service was unavailable. This was because the call centre that answers and re-directs 111 calls, based in Featherston Street Wellington, was damaged by the earthquake and staff had to be evacuated immediately.

 

The normal procedure when the 111 call-centre is affected by a natural disaster is to re-route 111 calls directly to each of the emergency services, while the back-up 111 call-centre, in this case in Porirua, is activated. 

 

The team making the switchover procedure during the quake were impeded by falling ceiling tiles and air conditioning equipment, which landed on the very desk being used to make the switch. While staff believed they had completed the procedure, it became apparent after they had urgently left the building that the procedure had not worked properly.

 

At this point, a secondary contingency procedure was invoked, which involved a remote switchover of the service, managed from the Network Operating Centre in Hamilton. This process was implemented and 111 service was then restored with emergency services able to field 111 calls directly from that point. 

 

Once the 111 operator team were relocated to the emergency back-up site in Porirua, calls were able to be rerouted back to the 111 call-centre from 7.50am.

 

The 111 operator team has been working through the night with relevant emergency services to minimise any impact to the public. We would like to apologise for the 111 service outage, and for any distress this may have caused members of the public trying to reach emergency services during that time.   

 





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  #1670495 14-Nov-2016 09:59
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All Vodafone updates so far:

 

 

Network technicians continue to monitor the mobile, fixed and broadband networks in earthquake affected regions. We can confirm that a small number of sites are affected by power outages and most have now kicked over to back-up battery or generator power. A small number of FibreX (HFC) customers in Wellington may be experiencing service interruptions. We are waiting for the power supply to settle before we send technicians to these sites.

 

We apologise for any service interruptions and urge people to refrain from making unnecessary calls, leaving the network free for emergency calls.

 

We are continuing to assess our retail stores and working closely with our teams to ensure the safety of customers and staff. Our stores in Lambton Quay, Cuba St, Queensgate, Porirua, Paraparaumu, Nelson and Blenheim currently remain closed. In Christchurch, our Riccarton stores are clear to open.

 

The next update will be provided at approximately 1:00 PM.

 

#EQNZ for local information

 

 

 

UPDATE @7:30 am Monday 14 November 2016

 

Further to our updates across the morning, our technical teams have been working hard to ensure customers are able to remain connected. They have been able to assess the mobile and fixed networks and report that some sites in Wellington and Christchurch have been impacted by power cuts, there is no structural damage. Back-up generators have arrived, or are on their way to key sites, should power outages continue across the day. We are sorry for any service disruption you may be experiencing. We know how important it is to stay connected with loved ones at times like this.

 

We are now assessing our retail stores and working closely with our teams to ensure the safety of customers and staff. We can advise that the following stores will remain closed until they have been checked and cleared for access: Lambton Quay, Cuba St, Queensgate, Porirua and Paraparaumu. The Christchurch retail stores are under review and we will update again shortly. #EQNZ for local information

 

 

 

 

 

UPDATE @5:30 am Monday 14 November 2016

 

Following this morning’s severe earthquake 20km South East of Hanmer Springs, we have conducted a full assessment of the mobile and fixed line networks.

 

The power outages have impacted a number of our sites and initiated a switch over to back up generators to keep sites operational. There are a small number of sites down, mainly in the Wellington and Christchurch regions. In some cases customers in these regions are covered by crossover signal from nearby sites. Back-up generators are en-route to key sites. As power companies restore power, sites are coming back on, and we will keep you updated as we progress.

 

We hope everyone is safe and not too shaken. Stay strong, listen to civil defence reports and check on those around you. On social media use #EQNZ.

 

 

 

 

 

UPDATE @ 1.30 am Monday 14 November 2016

 

A severe earthquake struck the NZ South Island at 12:02am Monday and a tsunami warning has been issued for the eastern coast of the South Island.

 

We know that some of our mobile sites and fixed line cabinets have been impacted by power outages and we are working to identify the full extent of impact for our customers. 

 

We hope everyone is ok. Please look out for each other and head to higher ground if you are on the eastern coast of the South Island. 

 

We will update you as more information comes through. 

 





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  #1670496 14-Nov-2016 09:59
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Geektastic:
freitasm: Civil Defense says tsunami risk for East Coast incl Wellington and South Island. Get away from sea.


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I know... Damn auto-correct.





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  #1670500 14-Nov-2016 10:07
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     >Defense<

 

I thought it was in deference to Mr Drumph laughing




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Reports of looting houses during the evacuation. Can I suggest once the wastes of space have been caught, they are publicly named, mugshots on the front page and public floggings in the town square. Oh and drop them off in the middle of Mosul afterwards. Hard to believe people like that exist.

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  #1670516 14-Nov-2016 10:28
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Had a significant shake rattle and roll in Wanganui and we lost power for about 3 hours.

 

Although I have a emergancey kit etc prompted me to:

 

1.Get a few more torches

 

2.Get the app for Radio New Zealand (got it)

 

3.Keep my phone on the dock when not using so its always charged

 

4. Fasten one particular tall cabinet to the wall :)

 

 

 

 





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My grizzle about the civil defense alerts is that something clearly warranting evacuation of coastal areas happened, but information wasn't being distributed.  National Radio didn't have good information from any authority, our local tsunami sirens weren't activated for 2 hours after the quake - until after the bloody waves arrived.

 

Now in theory a quake with epicentre on land doesn't cause tsunami, but the faults in the area run in a SW:NE direction, the large magnitude suggests a long section of the fault ruptured, the possibility that the section which ruptured included sections under the sea was high.  There is also a known particular risk in that Kaikoura coast region from undersea landslide generated tsunami, which might happen at any time with or without a quake to trigger it.

 

Take that into account, and it's ridiculous that an alert wasn't issued immediately.  Two hours later for Chch - that was irresponsible in my opinion.

 

If you live in a tsunami exposed position near the coast, there's a rule of thumb that if you feel an EQ with strong shaking which goes on for more than about 30 second, you evacuate immediately and return only when you're given the all-clear. Having a national alert system which doesn't follow that basic rule is nuts.  I could see the traffic flow evacuating the Chch coast - which made it pretty clear that there's a problem, if there'd been a large tsunami, hardly anybody would have escaped in time.  To avoid the "crying wolf" effect, they need to make sure that any alert is cancelled promptly and the all clear given as soon as possible when it's established that the risk is over.  There seems to be a centralised "trust us we're the experts" attitude, and a very poor chain of command. Last night they have shaken my trust in their ability to run a p*ss-up in a brewery, let alone a critical national warning system.  Very, very poor performance.

 

Then I'm not happy about Geonet's initial recording of the quake as M7.5, after review by a duty seismologist it was downgraded to M6.6.  A M6.6 quake is unlikely to generate a significant tsunami, but a M7.5 surely is.  It took ages for Geonet to revise their estimated magnitude, then only after USGS had also revised their estimate up from M7.5 to M7.8.

 

If that quake had generated a significant widespread tsunami (it was significant but limited to the Kaikoura coast) then our poor alert system would have probably cost lives.  Next time may not be so lucky.

 

It's very poor that with no training in the subject, I could work out how wrong GNS had their estimates using nothing more than a "seat of pants" seismometer, and a quick look at the national seismograph network.

 

Then as a minor annoyance, they left the flipping tsunami sirens on all night it seemed - long after the risk had passed - just to ensure nobody got any sleep perhaps?

 

 

 

 


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  #1670520 14-Nov-2016 10:36
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Late to the party but will add my bit for what it's worth. We are located in rural Hastings, well away from any tsunami risk. I was in bed when the earthquake struck. As elsewhere, it was a long, rolling affair that shook the house and made odd noises, but it wasn't severe, just prolonged, so I wasn't unduely alarmed. Nothing fell over and the power did not go out. After it finally stopped I waited awhile to see if anything else would happen and nothing did so I went back to bed. We have had worse shakers in the past that were local and didn't do significant damage, so I didn't think much of it. I had no idea how widespread the damage was until I checked the news this morning. I am not aware of any aftershocks occurring here. 

 

 





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  #1670522 14-Nov-2016 10:44
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surfisup1000:

 

 

 

Tauranga civil defense is a complete shambles. Tauranga has a large coastal population , it is inconceivable the bureaucrats cannot get a warning system sorted.  

 

 

 

 

Heads need to roll.  That was a complete freaking shambles last night, lord knows how much the tsunami siren systems have cost to install, they could be very effective if and when they are really needed, but the "human factor" meant that they were so useless we'd actually be safer if they weren't there at all.


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  #1670524 14-Nov-2016 10:46
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geek4me:

Rickles:


 Has anyone got TV this morning in Wellington?



No TV on Freeview Terrestrial at 8am. It was off air when I heard the civil defence siren in the Hutt at 3am? Not very good to have no TV in an emergency. Back to the radio!



Same here.. and continues. Only TVNZ mux, but very low signal strength.




 

 

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I switched on news talk ZB just before and some bloke had just finished going on about some oil or gas platform - Maui? Wonder if there was any issues out there. Sounded interesting.


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  #1670527 14-Nov-2016 10:55
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Malpaso: Reports of looting houses during the evacuation. Can I suggest once the wastes of space have been caught, they are publicly named, mugshots on the front page and public floggings in the town square. Oh and drop them off in the middle of Mosul afterwards. Hard to believe people like that exist.

 

I think when this happened in Feb 22 event, it was, too busy, remand in custody, we will get back to you when we have time.


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