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  # 1713924 1-Feb-2017 14:34
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networkn:

 

On another note OP, what would you have this person do, to mitigate your discomfort? (realistically).

 

 

I think (don't know for certain) that a lot of the smell is in the clothes. Possibly bring something like a light raincoat or other easy to wear covering garment to put on while going outside, then remove it while back inside. If there is a place to hang it in a hall or foyer that might help.





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  # 1713928 1-Feb-2017 14:40
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michaelmurfy:

 

I used to smoke - now I vape #vapenation...

 

I was always very conscious about the smell and the smell was the main reason why I quit - it is impossible to avoid but also quitting is incredibly difficult also especially for those who have been smoking for years and years. Unless if you've personally gone through quitting I'd suggest that you hold off on the comments related to banning etc. You could go the other route with him of which I've been doing:

 

1) Get a bunch of business cards from suppliers of vaping product providers - The Vaping Kiwi and Shellys will be more than happy to give you some.
2) Suggest smokers who annoy you with the smell to switch to vaping - this is how the conversation goes:

 

"Hey so I see you're smoking? That must cost you a truckload. You ever considered vaping? These two providers are very good. I'd suggest you buying a starter kit from The Vaping Kiwi and grabbing some 12mg liquid from Shellys (ask for it in the comments). Some of my friends have switched and they're loving it and think you will too and if you want to quit just cut down the nicotine in each order of eliquid and you won't get any withdrawals" (basically you're also causing a placebo to happen here).

 

Now the thing is unless if you vape yourself it is pretty hard to convert smokers but once they do switch you'll soon notice that they don't smell like smoke at all and like a regular human. It is much much better than smoking and also far cheaper (starter kits cost anywhere from $30 to $50 and liquid is cheap as chips). It is a different approach from just asking him to quit outright especially since telling him to do that would give you a resound "f off". All smokers know they would be better off without it so don't have to be reminded however with vaping now becoming quite popular (I've personally been doing it for years) it could be a great option for him.

 

MikeAqua: Something I have observed is female smokers in our building do not smell after a cigarette break, as much as males do.  I've always wondered why that is.  Milder brands?

 

It is because they normally spray themselves before entering inside and hold a conversation or smoke slower - male smokers will smoke their ciggie quickly taking bigger drags.

 

 

Just washing your hands when you come back in can also help. 

 

 





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  # 1714061 1-Feb-2017 16:29
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michaelmurfy:
MadEngineer: Vapes are not old people friendly.


I respectfully disagree - have converted quite a few old-timers :)
I think it was more an issue around not likeing change.

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  # 1714063 1-Feb-2017 16:34
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MikeAqua:

 

 

 

Something I have observed is female smokers in our building do not smell after a cigarette break, as much as males do.  I've always wondered why that is.  Milder brands?

 

 

I think it does depend a lot on the brand.  Some smokers I know always reek of smoke, others not, does not seem related to habits etc.


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  # 1714069 1-Feb-2017 16:39
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Smoking in a car is the biggest reason that people stink of it.





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  # 1714130 1-Feb-2017 19:55
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networkn: I recall following a smoker down the street

Maybe don't do that then?

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  # 1714181 1-Feb-2017 21:12
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The littering by smokers annoys me more than anything else.

 

My post reminded me of this vid:


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  # 1714186 1-Feb-2017 21:21
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MadEngineer:
michaelmurfy:
MadEngineer: Vapes are not old people friendly.


I respectfully disagree - have converted quite a few old-timers :)

 

I think it was more an issue around not likeing change.

 

 

 

I totally disagree.. Actually have converted quite a few of all ages to vaping and even met some oldies that switched at Anzac ceremonies. After 50+ years of smoking, they're enjoying breathing again.

 

 

 

I've been vaping for probably 6-7 years now. I don't even use nicotine anymore. hahaha.


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  # 1714241 1-Feb-2017 22:56
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ubergeeknz:

 

MikeAqua:

 

 

 

Something I have observed is female smokers in our building do not smell after a cigarette break, as much as males do.  I've always wondered why that is.  Milder brands?

 

 

I think it does depend a lot on the brand.  Some smokers I know always reek of smoke, others not, does not seem related to habits etc.

 

 

 

 

I recall reading once that ready made cigarettes have chemicals added to ensure even burning etc. and roll your own Golden Virginia type with Rizlas and so forth do not have the same additives. Apparently it is the additives that exacerbate the lingering smell - and certainly from experience of being around roll your own smokers they do not seem to smell as unpleasant.






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  # 1714246 1-Feb-2017 23:38
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PaulBags:
networkn: I recall following a smoker down the street

Maybe don't do that then?

 

 

 

Yes, that's right, because I should need to switch sides of the street to avoid inconsiderate people who smoke in public?


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  # 1714285 2-Feb-2017 07:16
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In previous managerial positions I've had to have 'awkward'/'uncomfortable' talks with staff for issues similar in nature to the OP.  Talk to HR or a manager and if they're good at their job they'll handle it appropriately.


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  # 1714296 2-Feb-2017 08:25
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Work with a guy when he comes in and sits next to me after smoking outside I get an instant headache after smelling the smoking fumes that are obviously coming from his clothes.


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I can't stand the smell of cigarettes I am an ex smoker and they stink to me.

 

I think we need to ban smoking in public ASAP, walking through someones toxic exhalations is just gross, and I have noticed it more since my fiancé has been pregnant.


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dickytim:

 

I can't stand the smell of cigarettes I am an ex smoker and they stink to me.

 

I think we need to ban smoking in public ASAP, walking through someones toxic exhalations is just gross, and I have noticed it more since my fiancé has been pregnant.

 

 

I think it may be the paper that does most of the stinking?  Pipe tobacco or cigars don't have that 'burning rubbish pile' smell that cigarettes do.

 

I think vaping is a good compromise for outdoor spaces.





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Geektastic:

 

ubergeeknz:

 

MikeAqua:

 

 

 

Something I have observed is female smokers in our building do not smell after a cigarette break, as much as males do.  I've always wondered why that is.  Milder brands?

 

 

I think it does depend a lot on the brand.  Some smokers I know always reek of smoke, others not, does not seem related to habits etc.

 

 

 

 

I recall reading once that ready made cigarettes have chemicals added to ensure even burning etc. and roll your own Golden Virginia type with Rizlas and so forth do not have the same additives. Apparently it is the additives that exacerbate the lingering smell - and certainly from experience of being around roll your own smokers they do not seem to smell as unpleasant.

 

 

599 chemicals / additives listed here.
Note the comment: "One significant issue is that while all these chemical compounds have been approved as additives to food, they were not tested by burning".

 

I'm pretty sure that plenty of chemicals also go into roll your own tobacco - I agree but I'm not sure why ready rolled cigarettes seem so much worse - there's an especially pungent substance that stings my eyes and catches on my throat which seems worse in the smoke coming off the end of cigarettes that are being held (or when sitting in an ashtray) rather than actually inhaled.

 

Roll your own cigarettes seem to go out quickly unless they're sucked on.

 

It's remarkable that these additives must be listed on food labels - but not on tobacco packets. 


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