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  # 1765128 16-Apr-2017 19:59
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I always found libraries really useful when I was unemployed and needed somewhere central with Wifi access to base myself while job seeking. I think the Wellington Central Library was also used as emergency accommodation when people were unable to get home during the flooding late last year.

 

As borrowing books slowly goes out of fashion I hope that libraries will remain as community hubs rather than disappearing altogether.


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  # 1765178 16-Apr-2017 21:36
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I always found libraries really useful when I was unemployed and needed somewhere central with Wifi access to base myself while job seeking. I think the Wellington Central Library was also used as emergency accommodation when people were unable to get home during the flooding late last year.

 

As borrowing books slowly goes out of fashion I hope that libraries will remain as community hubs rather than disappearing altogether.

 

 

But librarians aren't needed for either function you mention.

 

I haven't seen any good justification for why we shouldn't reduce the number of librarians in Auckland - even in any of our other main cities. Many core library functions - issuing "books", for example - are becoming more online and automated.


 
 
 
 


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nakedmolerat: @lcl agreed. So much so I think Auckland needs to trim the fat, just to save 1.8mil seems like not worth the effort or the right place to do.

They have regular kids activities etc. In fact, this has been reduced to a mere 2-3 days a week only since the last restructure.


Libraries are not kindergartens.


Say someone who don't have kids? I guess you won't understand that.





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Ivanka has kids

 


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nakedmolerat: @lcl agreed. So much so I think Auckland needs to trim the fat, just to save 1.8mil seems like not worth the effort or the right place to do.

They have regular kids activities etc. In fact, this has been reduced to a mere 2-3 days a week only since the last restructure.

 

If the Auckland council wants to trim $1.8mil plus just kill the $15 mil "beautification" of the Mt Albert shopping strip.  It works fine as it is..

 

I'd vote to keep the libraries as is  and make savings elsewhere. 





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nakedmolerat:
Geektastic:
nakedmolerat: @lcl agreed. So much so I think Auckland needs to trim the fat, just to save 1.8mil seems like not worth the effort or the right place to do.

They have regular kids activities etc. In fact, this has been reduced to a mere 2-3 days a week only since the last restructure.


Libraries are not kindergartens.


Say someone who don't have kids? I guess you won't understand that.


Fortunately that curse has escaped me. As an adult, I prefer libraries to be quiet places of study and knowledge seeking. Children have a variety of places to be noisy. Adults have few where they can enjoy silence.





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Ivanka has kids

 

 

 

 

And one of them even speaks Mandarin!

 

 





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@Geektastic: Fortunately that curse has escaped me. .... Adults have few where they can enjoy silence.

 

wink Which kid can build himself a man cave? Or, in your case, a whole flat / apartment / house? wink





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@Geektastic: Fortunately that curse has escaped me. .... Adults have few where they can enjoy silence.

 

wink Which kid can build himself a man cave? Or, in your case, a whole flat / apartment / house? wink

 

 

What's wrong with a tree hut? Oh that's right - there's no 'app' for that. Probably no trees on the 380m² section either... and even if there were it'd be classed as child abuse by some sticky-beak government agency if they were permitted to actually climb up them...


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nakedmolerat: @lcl agreed. So much so I think Auckland needs to trim the fat, just to save 1.8mil seems like not worth the effort or the right place to do.

They have regular kids activities etc. In fact, this has been reduced to a mere 2-3 days a week only since the last restructure.

 

If the Auckland council wants to trim $1.8mil plus just kill the $15 mil "beautification" of the Mt Albert shopping strip.  It works fine as it is..

 

I'd vote to keep the libraries as is  and make savings elsewhere. 

 

 

They should do BOTH - why save $15M when you can save $16.8M?

 

They'll wreck Mt Albert with anything they do - it's the first I've heard of this plan but I'm sure they'll make it so there's nowhere left to park in a misguided attempt to get people to go there on public transport - which won't work because it never does when public transport is so hopeless - and at the same time add to traffic congestion with needless spaces for people to stand around which will in fact only attract juvenile delinquents. Am I close?


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@Geektastic: Fortunately that curse has escaped me. .... Adults have few where they can enjoy silence.


wink Which kid can build himself a man cave? Or, in your case, a whole flat / apartment / house? wink



I'm not sure what that had to do with noisy libraries?





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IcI:

 

@Geektastic: Fortunately that curse has escaped me. .... Adults have few where they can enjoy silence.

 

 

 

wink Which kid can build himself a man cave? Or, in your case, a whole flat / apartment / house? wink

 



I'm not sure what that had to do with noisy libraries?

 

I think the implication was that you should stay home if you don't like noisy snotty-nosed brats in libraries...


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Geektastic:
IcI:


@Geektastic: Fortunately that curse has escaped me. .... Adults have few where they can enjoy silence.


 


wink Which kid can build himself a man cave? Or, in your case, a whole flat / apartment / house? wink




I'm not sure what that had to do with noisy libraries?


I think the implication was that you should stay home if you don't like noisy snotty-nosed brats in libraries...



Yeah. I enjoy my time at the Library. I want my kids to have the same experience.

I believe that if that person does not vote/take part in decision making - he/she should not complain what the government of the day does.

It is the same as with this library issue, as this will mainly affect the future generation. If that person has no stake in the future (no children etc), then tough. Life in this world is finite. Let us ensure the future generation continue what we have enjoyed here.





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Geektastic:
IcI:

 

Geektastic: Fortunately that curse has escaped me. .... Adults have few where they can enjoy silence.

 

wink Which kid can build himself a man cave? Or, in your case, a whole flat / apartment / house? wink

 



I'm not sure what that had to do with noisy libraries?

 

I think the implication was that you should stay home if you don't like noisy snotty-nosed brats in libraries...

 

 

Not so much a "should", but rather a luxury of having your own space that you can use for your own purposes. You can make as much or as little noise as you chose to in your "man-cave". There are many places where you can enjoy peace & quiet. In the case of Geektastic, he has a complete living space available to himself where he can enjoy that quietness.





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A few choice quotes: 

 

     

  1. "By now, librarians are used to explaining, usually patiently, that not everything is online, that not everyone has access to the Internet and that libraries are about so much more than “just” books and printed resources."
  2. Public libraries and their staff have long been trusted intermediaries, helping people find, access and use reliable and authoritative information
  3. In our increasingly individualistic society, libraries are all about building relationships
  4. bring a huge cross-section of society into the library to meet, engage and spend time together and so contribute to civic life
  5. means that they are more inter-generational and cross-cultural than most
  6. Public libraries are vital and vibrant places for connections of all kinds and our communities are richer for their presence

 

Taken from https://www.newsroom.co.nz/@future-learning/2017/04/13/18929/why-do-we-still-need-libraries





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