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  # 1790548 28-May-2017 10:48
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Geektastic: NZ has a fairly low number of days already. My last UK job I had 30 days leave, 13 public holidays and what amounted to unlimited sick leave on full salary.

My brother in the US gets 20 days, but works from about 7 am to 7 pm the rest of the time. As he says, if you're there, it is what it is. His $25k bonus probably eases the pain.


In NZ here. I get 6 weeks annual leave, accumulate all stat days (whether I work them or not) and 15+ sick days per annum (which are banked).


The way I read UK leave entitlements is that all fulltime employees are to have 5.6 weeks of annual leave per annum, which can include bank holidays... so really the entitlements between the UK and NZ are very similar. As with any job in any country employees/employers can negotiate their contracts/leave entitlements as they see fit.



I've never seen a UK white collar job where public holidays are part of annual leave.

Mind you, as a self employed person I get no paid leave, so that's sobering.

The Banking and Financial Dealings Act 1971 defines UK Bank Holidays. Normally there are 8 days for any one of the countries, slight variations. The Act does not guarantee a paid holiday day on a Bank Holiday, so it is standard practice to include Bank Holidays, where paid leave, in the employment contract.

It would be a pretty unusual agreement in the U.K. where the 13 country variants were applied to an employee domiciled in one country. Standard practice would be, e.g. if resident in England you would get the English variants only, Scotland the Scottish ones, etc.


Include yes, but usually, for white collar professional roles at least, in addition to annual leave of 25 or more days.







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Check out their sick leave laws or lack of them.


 


United States. The United States does not currently require that employees have access to paid sick days to address their own short-term illnesses or the short-term illness of a family member. The U.S. does guarantee unpaid leave for serious illnesses through the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA).



I'm stating the obvious, but many people can't afford to take unpaid sick leave.

It's a damn shame American politicians are more interested in protecting corporation than protecting the voters who elected them.

But of course, it's also the American voters fault for electing uncaring politicians.

 
 
 
 


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It is common. For 4 weeks they put 28 days including bank holidays in the contract.  4 weeks + 8 bank holidays.

 



Well in 20 years I never met anyone who suffered that restriction.

 

 

 

ok then? 


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When I took my current role I opted for more leave and less salary. 

 

Extra leave cannot be taxed, it cannot be included in child support calculations and you don't have to pay GST when spending time.





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When I took my current role I opted for more leave and less salary. 

 

Extra leave cannot be taxed, it cannot be included in child support calculations and you don't have to pay GST when spending time.

 

 

 

 

Good points.

 

Conversely of course, it cannot be used to pay for your home or your Ferrari..!






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  # 1791813 30-May-2017 15:31
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Geektastic:
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It is common. For 4 weeks they put 28 days including bank holidays in the contract.  4 weeks + 8 bank holidays.

 



Well in 20 years I never met anyone who suffered that restriction.

 

 

 

ok then? 

 

 

 

 

You just met someone, me.

Common in this day for that to be in a contract.
The last 3 salary jobs i have had they all have 28 days plus 8 bank holidays.
The current one are winning out of the lot. I was sick recently and have been there for less than 6 months, Forced to use annual leave as i didnt have any sick leave yet. 


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Geektastic:

 

MikeAqua:

 

When I took my current role I opted for more leave and less salary. 

 

Extra leave cannot be taxed, it cannot be included in child support calculations and you don't have to pay GST when spending time.

 

 

 

 

Good points.

 

Conversely of course, it cannot be used to pay for your home or your Ferrari..!

 

 

When you're paying child support, Ferraris are not a consideration.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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I give all my staff 5 weeks a year of paid leave. I also payout 50% of sick days that are not used over the 20 days accumulation limit I have.





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Geektastic:

 

MikeAqua:

 

When I took my current role I opted for more leave and less salary. 

 

Extra leave cannot be taxed, it cannot be included in child support calculations and you don't have to pay GST when spending time.

 

 

 

 

Good points.

 

Conversely of course, it cannot be used to pay for your home or your Ferrari..!

 

 

I knew I was meant to buy something at lunch time today ...

 

Trouble is at the higher tax rates to take home a $100 you have to earn $150 and then when you spend it you lose $13 on GST. 

 

So to get $100 of actual purchase power you have to earn about $173.

 

That assumes you don't spend it on petrol or beer which are even more taxed ...





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Geektastic:


MikeAqua:


When I took my current role I opted for more leave and less salary. 


Extra leave cannot be taxed, it cannot be included in child support calculations and you don't have to pay GST when spending time.



 


Good points.


Conversely of course, it cannot be used to pay for your home or your Ferrari..!



When you're paying child support, Ferraris are not a consideration.


 



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Mspec:

 

I give all my staff 5 weeks a year of paid leave. I also payout 50% of sick days that are not used over the 20 days accumulation limit I have.

 

 

I used to work for a bank here in NZ which, about 10-15 years ago, changed from a fixed maximum number of paid sick-leave days per year, to an unlimited number (subject to some 'reasonable and fair-use' type rules).

 

When there was a fixed number of days, people felt obliged to take them whether or not they were actually sick, because they felt entitled to them. When it was changed to unlimited, the total number of sick days taken per year fell dramatically.


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