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  #1802143 16-Jun-2017 14:32
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Raw milk for me please! Yum!




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  #1802191 16-Jun-2017 15:50
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My mother (to discourage us kids from chocolate milk) used to tell us it was ordinary milk that had been 'contaminated' during the milking process.





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  #1802202 16-Jun-2017 16:02
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I was under the impression that the cows were fed chocolate




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  #1802243 16-Jun-2017 16:30
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nathan:

 

Rikkitic:

 

Fred99:

 

There's now some arguments that whole milk may be better for you than low fat.  Correlation only, possible mechanism that some nutrients in milk are fat soluble, that the ratio of sugar:fat (even though that may be lactose - not added sucrose in flavoured milk etc) contributes to obesity etc.  The apparent flaw in many of the population studies is the same flaw that appears in studies suggesting negative outcomes / higher mortality through use of artificial sweeteners.  They conveniently ignore the fact that of the population using artificial sweeteners, some larger % are diabetic, obese already and have reason to reduce sugar consumption (the hope to avoid the negative health outcome they're being told they're going to get) - or do things I've seen so many times - have a donut or big slab of sweet cake with their coffee - then bung artificial sweetener in their coffee "because they need to diet".

 

Who knows?  Reducing added sugar intake is a no-brainer, but consuming massive quantities of saturated fats just because it seems they aren't as harmful as once thought may be a serious mistake.

 

Almost all industry-funded food studies truly suck - and media reporting on them is shamefully inadequate.

 

 

Media reporting on everything here seems shamefully inadequate. Nearly every article I see is just a regurgitated press release. I can't recall the last time I saw a critical report on anything. I don't think today's 'journalists' are even capable of critical thinking. I have to wonder what they are actually taught in journalism school.

 

 

 

 

quality of journalists is a reflection of how much their audience is prepared to pay.

 

Read the NBR sometime for quality critical reporting (yes its behind a paywall)

 

 

There's a serious problem with that, in my opinion.

 

Those most in need of good journalism (to critique and convert into plain english the press-releases and other selective BS from companies trying to sell you crap, politicians and lobbyists trying to get inside your head etc) - it's those folks who will never pay for on-line news.

 

Then they - with their woo-woo beliefs - by sheer numbers start influencing policy - so they do become our problem. (Anti-vaccers are an example - but there are many more)

 

There's a real need for free state supplied news - greater now that broadcast TV news is dying.


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  #1802459 16-Jun-2017 23:01
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kingdragonfly:
The "Innovation Center for U.S. Dairy" / "DairyGood" has published the result of 1,000 survey of Americans.

7% believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows.

While that's funny, their web page about adding sugar to milk is misleading, by paltering: using truthful statements to lead a listener to a false conclusion

"While some have concerns about sweeteners in milk, leading health and nutrition organizations have recognized that the small amounts of added sugars that can be used in nutrient-dense foods, like chocolate milk. For some people, the calories from sugar in flavored milk are a worthwhile trade-off for all of the nutrients milk provides.

In fact, dairy companies have come together to lower sugars in flavored milk available in schools by 38 percent. This lower-sugar, fat-free option has an average of 134 calories per 8 oz., which is only about 30 more calories than white milk."

https://dairygood.org/Content/2014/4-Chocolate-Milk-Myths-Busted

 

Why are we so prejudiced about American stupidity that we do not realise that the truth is that 7% thought that it would be funny to say that it comes from brown cows.


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  #1802465 17-Jun-2017 06:07
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jpoc:

 

kingdragonfly:
The "Innovation Center for U.S. Dairy" / "DairyGood" has published the result of 1,000 survey of Americans.

7% believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows.

While that's funny, their web page about adding sugar to milk is misleading, by paltering: using truthful statements to lead a listener to a false conclusion

"While some have concerns about sweeteners in milk, leading health and nutrition organizations have recognized that the small amounts of added sugars that can be used in nutrient-dense foods, like chocolate milk. For some people, the calories from sugar in flavored milk are a worthwhile trade-off for all of the nutrients milk provides.

In fact, dairy companies have come together to lower sugars in flavored milk available in schools by 38 percent. This lower-sugar, fat-free option has an average of 134 calories per 8 oz., which is only about 30 more calories than white milk."

https://dairygood.org/Content/2014/4-Chocolate-Milk-Myths-Busted

 

Why are we so prejudiced about American stupidity that we do not realise that the truth is that 7% thought that it would be funny to say that it comes from brown cows.

 

 

That was my initial thought too.

 

 

 

 


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  #1802576 17-Jun-2017 13:07
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Paul1977:

 

 

 

Geektastic:

 

Don't look at the amount of sugar in Lewis Road chocolate milk...!

 

 

I assume there is a lot. That's probably why it tastes so much better.

 

But I actually prefer the double caramel one. I haven't looked to know for sure, but it tastes like it would have even more sugar than the chocolate one.

 

 

 

 

"It's official, Lewis Road Creamery is the tastiest chocolate milk in New Zealand - although it is possibly also the worst for you.

 

A 750ml bottle contains over 87 grams - or 21 teaspoons - of sugar."






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