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# 215584 3-Jul-2017 19:58
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We're planning on getting a semi-auto espresso machine that also has the ability to use capsules (three types: Nespresso, Caffitaly, and Lavazza A Modo Mio). While I'm not planning on using it for this purpose, I'd imagine my wife will be more likely to use it if that's an option.

 

As such, I'm interested to know if there are certain brands of capsules that are more highly-regarded than others.

 

I've read through a number of threads on here around this topic, but none were terribly recent; on that older evidence, many people seem to point to the originally branded Nespresso pods and Robert Harris ones.

 

But options seem to have expanded, with a large number of brands out there, including fair trade options, and capsules from traditional roasters like Hummingbird (or perhaps are just branded generics?). 

 

So are there any brands that people can recommend for 2017, and also where are particularly good places to buy them from (that sell them [relatively!] fresh and/or at a good price)?

 

Note this isn't an invitation for the usual coffee wars thread, please, as I've read it all before!

 

Thanks for any feedback.


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  # 1812286 3-Jul-2017 22:37
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I have a Nespresso machine and have tried a few other third party capsules in it. They never work as well as the genuine article so I have just given up and stuck to them.






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  # 1812294 3-Jul-2017 23:01
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The problem I have with the non nespresso ones is lack of consistancy. Also they are not vaporproof packaging, some you can smell coffee in the box, others once you open the bag. In anycase if there is coffee smell coming out, there is oxygen going in to make it deteriorate.





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  # 1812307 4-Jul-2017 06:48
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L'Or - any flavour have a 99/100 success rate. Good coffee, I buy 10-20 boxes when they go on special to end up with a reasonable price/coffee too.

 

 

 

All other brands, including Jeds and Robert Harris have appalling fail rates. Sometimes around 3 out of 10 failed pods in a box.

 

Spent years trying various brands, absolutely nothing comes close to L'Or.

 

 


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  # 1812308 4-Jul-2017 06:55
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When you say semi auto....does that mean the machine will pierce the capsules itself?

 

I had a Nespresso U Milk once, and everytime I tried to use a 3rd party capsule, it wasnt very happy.  I now have a cheaper machine and thats a manual loader so 3rd party works much better but I rather not ise 3rd party given they bugger my machine always. 




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  # 1812313 4-Jul-2017 07:15
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Goosey:

When you say semi auto....does that mean the machine will pierce the capsules itself?



By semi-automatic I'm referring to the conventional espresso machine aspect. It's a revised version of an older model that comes with two handles, one for ground coffee and the other takes one of three fittings for the three different types of supported capsules.

This model here, which Farmers currently has at half price for $700.

https://www.sunbeam.co.nz/Café-Series-Espresso-Machine-plus-Multi-Capsule-Handle-1.aspx

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I've tried most others, we used L'Or at work because they were cheap, they're not bad, but as mentioned above they're not consistent with their flavour. 

 

The genuine nespresso capsules are filled with nitrogen and sealed with a gas barrier to ensure there's no oxygen contamination.

 

I would look at the non-geniune ones if they were 'fresh' but there's no telling how long it takes to get from factory to your machine, which is probably the cause of the unreliability.

 

But I can/do have my selected sleeves over 5 years now straight, and can tell you as a amateur they have the same 'reliable' taste each and everytime, or if they have changed, it's imperceptible across months, as each capsule is virtually identical from the same sleeve.

 

The other benefit is buying capsules from the store (if you live near one) is if you're a member they're always too happy to pour you a free coffee.




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I wasn't aware that Nescafe limit the sale of the pods to their own stores and on-line - I guess it keeps them retain a sense of exclusivity but also would push people to look to alternatives if they can't just pick them up from the local supermarket.

 

I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone with experience with either the Caffitaly or A Modo Mio capsule format. Apparently a key advantage is the amount of coffee in them is closer to a standard espresso (so less chance of over-extraction to get the same strength.) Here's an example of Caffitaly capsules - 8g per pod versus the 5.5 typically found in a Nespresso capsule. The main issue seems to be a lack of options for these less common formats.

 

Are the hot chocolates from these machines any good, in are they particularly any better than a standard powder-based drink? I can imagine my kids would be keen on getting in on enjoying the fruits of the new machine as well. Any brands of hot chocolate that are particularly worthy?

 

tehgerbil:

 

 

 

But I can/do have my selected sleeves over 5 years now straight, and can tell you as a amateur they have the same 'reliable' taste each and everytime, or if they have changed, it's imperceptible across months, as each capsule is virtually identical from the same sleeve.

 

Sorry, being new to all this I'm not sure what you mean by 'selected sleeves' - can you please elaborate?!

 

 


 
 
 
 


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Sorry a sleeve is a 10 pack of coffee. (I guess they call them sleeves to sound more upmarket??) but they come in a toblerone-style long thin package. Very easy to store actually.

 

I can pick up most sleeves for around $10 - $11, my favourite are Fortissio Lungo and Caramelitio. My wife prefers the stronger Ristretto.

 

 


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With regards to Nespresso capsules, I agree that in general the Nespresso branded capsules are the best.

 

Over the years we've had multiple (Nespresso) machines and tried every non-Nespresso option - including the "fill your own" models.
But nothing seemed to work as well as the Nespresso branded capsules.

 

Until recently that is.

 

The latest Jed's capsules (that have the gold logo on them with the text "New & Improved Technology") seem to be *very* close.

 

At close to half the price (approx $5.50 for a box of 10), Jeds are definitely our "everyday" coffee capsule now.
I use them in a higher-end Nespresso machine as well as an original model (totally manual) Nespresso and both deliver consistent results. 


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Nespresso recycle their pods, and have a few collection points,  but not sure if the plastic ones can be in your local recycling - so if you like recycling ,the aluminum ones could be better

 

 

 

(I don't want an argument about if pods are terrible for the environment or not, I use them because they are easy in the morning,  and I take my used pods back to the store to recycle)

 

I think Nespresso should offer some incentive, every 20 pods recycled gets you a dollar credit or similar.


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  # 1812494 4-Jul-2017 12:09
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3g:

 

With regards to Nespresso capsules, I agree that in general the Nespresso branded capsules are the best.

 

Over the years we've had multiple (Nespresso) machines and tried every non-Nespresso option - including the "fill your own" models.
But nothing seemed to work as well as the Nespresso branded capsules.

 

Until recently that is.

 

The latest Jed's capsules (that have the gold logo on them with the text "New & Improved Technology") seem to be *very* close.

 

At close to half the price (approx $5.50 for a box of 10), Jeds are definitely our "everyday" coffee capsule now.
I use them in a higher-end Nespresso machine as well as an original model (totally manual) Nespresso and both deliver consistent results. 

 

 

 

 

I've not seen them yet. The 'old' Jeds ones certainly weren't top notch in capsule terms.

 

When travelling, I always take Jeds Number 5 coffee bags and Dilmah tea. Hotel tea and coffee is usually awful and it is a small pleasure on the road to have a decent coffee in the morning and a decent cuppa at 1600.

 

If you look at the Nespresso ones, they are expensively designed using expensive materials. They cost more but work. The cheaper capsules are usually worse materials and design to keep the cost down and possibly less recyclable than the aluminium used by Nespresso.






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  # 1812502 4-Jul-2017 12:23
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I've had a Nespresso machine for about 4 years and tried various brands but I'd always found the genuine capsules to be the best, up until I tried the Caffesso capsules a few months ago. With various vouchers I've been getting them for a bit over half the price of the Nespresso capsules and I quite like the stronger Caffesso varieties.


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Capsules are quite easily refilled and sealed with aluminum foil. But then if one really likes coffee Capsules are not the way to go





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I wasn't aware that Nescafe limit the sale of the pods to their own stores and on-line - I guess it keeps them retain a sense of exclusivity but also would push people to look to alternatives if they can't just pick them up from the local supermarket.

 

I'd also be interested in hearing from anyone with experience with either the Caffitaly or A Modo Mio capsule format. Apparently a key advantage is the amount of coffee in them is closer to a standard espresso (so less chance of over-extraction to get the same strength.) Here's an example of Caffitaly capsules - 8g per pod versus the 5.5 typically found in a Nespresso capsule. The main issue seems to be a lack of options for these less common formats.

 

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I have the Nautilus Caffitally machine at home. It works fine with all kinds of Cattitaly capsules including the Countdown ones, the ones sold online, and others. I have even successfully refilled them myself but while the coffee tastes good, I have never managed to get the same amount of crema with my refills.

 

At work I use Nespresso and I don't think the machine has ever seen genuine Nespresso capsules apart from the 30 what it came with. Folks just go to the local Countdown and get Jeds, Robert Harris, L'Or or whatever is cheap and nobody has ever complained about a capsule failure or bad taste. And that's with the Nespresso shop only about a block from the office!





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  # 1823846 17-Jul-2017 15:31
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ronw:

 

Capsules are quite easily refilled and sealed with aluminum foil. But then if one really likes coffee Capsules are not the way to go

 

 

If you are going to refill, you need to use them with a day or three as the coffee will spoil.


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