Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.




1852 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 513


Topic # 217727 10-Jul-2017 13:34
Send private message quote this post

I'm not a smoker myself, but my father is and his birthday is in a couple of weeks, and I am think of getting him a vaporiser. He is getting older and his breathing is getting worse, but he has proven time and again that he either can't quit smoking, or just doesn't really want to.

 

At this point I'm thinking trying to get him to change to vaping has to be a better alternative than to continue smoking. He'd never go out and but one himself, so I'm hoping he will use one if I get it for him.

 

Where is the best place to buy a vaporiser, what ones are good, what sort of nicotine level e-liquid should I get?

 

He currently smokes (according to him) 10-12 a day of Rothmans Blue.





  Home:                                                      Work:
Home Work


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
 1 | 2 | 3
150 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 43

Subscriber

  Reply # 1818848 10-Jul-2017 13:59
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

https://www.ejuicebar.co.nz/ has two stores, one in Tauranga and one in Rotorua. You could flick them a message for some info.

 

 


2815 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1463

Subscriber

  Reply # 1818879 10-Jul-2017 14:32
Send private message quote this post

Whatever you do, DON'T buy from the chain mall stores (Cosmic & Shosha) as they are a completed ripoff. A few places I can recommend:

 

https://thevapeshop.nz/ online or Wellington Central

 

https://vapourium.nz/ online, two Dunedin stores

 

https://hoopersvapour.co.nz/ online or Christchurch store

 

https://www.facebook.com/LayersEmporium/ Wellington Central

 

http://www.jocksvapes.co.nz/ Online or Upper Hutt

 

 





Information wants to be free. The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.

 

Thinking about signing up to BigPipe? Get $20 credit with my referral link.


 
 
 
 


3135 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1167


  Reply # 1818885 10-Jul-2017 14:37
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Make sure you also buy him a fedora and some dub-step laughing





Mike

844 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 124

Trusted

  Reply # 1818894 10-Jul-2017 14:40
Send private message quote this post

I'd start with starter kits, I'm on 3rd eleaf product and had no issues apart from 1 year of use it looses it's coating, but for the price under $30 NZD, I can't complain. 

 

eg. iStick Pico 75W Starter (under $25 off ebay)

 

For a start you could order ejoyce from NZ (do they allow to sell nicotine ejoyce too?) if not, try american or european shops, don't buy from China.

 

molinshop.com - is my go to shop, but their delivery fee from 18 EUR (used to be 5 EUR :() I buy 3 x 100ml nic base 9-12mg.

 

Also is your father is long time smoker, get him at least 12-18mg nicotine, as he won't feel anything below that. And then move to 6-9-12mg.





helping others at dev.icqz.net



1852 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 513


  Reply # 1818914 10-Jul-2017 14:57
Send private message quote this post

kobiak

 

Also is your father is long time smoker, get him at least 12-18mg nicotine, as he won't feel anything below that. And then move to 6-9-12mg.

 

 

Only for the last 50 years. Sounds like 18mg will be the way to go. Thanks for that.


128 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 46


  Reply # 1818923 10-Jul-2017 15:14
Send private message quote this post

+1 re shosha and cosmic being rip off

6818 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3142

Moderator
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1818940 10-Jul-2017 15:39
Send private message quote this post

I've been vaping for a few years now - just don't buy from Cosmic and Shosha (even juice).

 

Some other places I'd recommend:
Gear, Coils etc - https://thevapingkiwi.co.nz/ - specifically the Aspire K3 Kit is a good starter.
Juice - http://www.shelley.co.nz/ - ask in the comments of the order what nicotine. For somebody coming from Smoking this much I would recommend around 12mg Nicotine.
Other Juice (what I vape) - https://www.eliquids.nz - Requires registration but pretty good.

 

If you're based in Wellington there is Layers Emporium who have opened up on Cuba Street. They have a good range of devices and Vapeorium juice and best of all at the same price the Vapeorium store sells them at. The chaps that work there are very helpful too.





Michael Murphy | https://murfy.nz
Want to be with an epic ISP? Want $20 to join them too? Well, use this link to sign up to BigPipe!
The Router GuideCommunity UniFi Cloud Controller | Ubiquiti Edgerouter Tutorial




1852 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 513


  Reply # 1818950 10-Jul-2017 15:56
Send private message quote this post

michaelmurfy:

 

I've been vaping for a few years now - just don't buy from Cosmic and Shosha (even juice).

 

Some other places I'd recommend:
Gear, Coils etc - https://thevapingkiwi.co.nz/ - specifically the Aspire K3 Kit is a good starter.
Juice - http://www.shelley.co.nz/ - ask in the comments of the order what nicotine. For somebody coming from Smoking this much I would recommend around 12mg Nicotine.
Other Juice (what I vape) - https://www.eliquids.nz - Requires registration but pretty good.

 

If you're based in Wellington there is Layers Emporium who have opened up on Cuba Street. They have a good range of devices and Vapeorium juice and best of all at the same price the Vapeorium store sells them at. The chaps that work there are very helpful too.

 

 

I'm in Christchurch, so will likely purchase online.

 

Vapingkiwi has a good selection.

 

I was thinking he might be better with something a little smaller than the A3, closer to the size of a cigarette, while he gets used to it. However I am concerned about the battery life of the slimmer models, such as the Eleaf iCare 140.


6818 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3142

Moderator
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1818991 10-Jul-2017 17:22
Send private message quote this post

@Paul1977 the Icare is a good unit - I wouldn't go with those cigarette sized ones as the batteries simply don't last long on then (and they don't generate too much vapour). The Icare is charged by micro USB so that's a bonus too. If you're going for that as a start then you're best to grab the liquid from Shelley's since it has a touch more PG (at a 75/25 ratio - VG/PG) and also grab a pack of coils while you're at it. Should keep him going for a bit.




Michael Murphy | https://murfy.nz
Want to be with an epic ISP? Want $20 to join them too? Well, use this link to sign up to BigPipe!
The Router GuideCommunity UniFi Cloud Controller | Ubiquiti Edgerouter Tutorial


Aussie
3923 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1030

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1818998 10-Jul-2017 17:48
Send private message quote this post

http://www.nakedvapour.co.nz/ is one of NZ oldest suppliers... Got me started 6-7ish years ago.

 

 I've converted a few geeks via twitter :D




1852 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 513


  Reply # 1819001 10-Jul-2017 17:54
Send private message quote this post

@michaelmurphy I note the strongest Shelleys do is 12mg, do you think that's strong enough for a smoker of 50 years? I had been looking at nzvapor.com as they do 18mg, but no one has mentioned them.

The goal at this point isn't to cut down the nicotine, just to get him of the smokes.

5053 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2320


  Reply # 1819003 10-Jul-2017 17:59
Send private message quote this post

Paul1977:

 

kobiak

 

Also is your father is long time smoker, get him at least 12-18mg nicotine, as he won't feel anything below that. And then move to 6-9-12mg.

 

 

Only for the last 50 years. Sounds like 18mg will be the way to go. Thanks for that.

 

 

My father in law, smoker now for 68 years.

 

He'd given up about a year ago, has started again over the past couple of weeks.  Dammit.

 

I've been the one to have to take him to A&E on several occasions or to meet the ambulance there - when he's had cardiac arrest and or stroke symptoms.  Question number one after they've figured out that he's alert enough to answer is "are you a smoker?".  This sets him off into rant mode - usually directed at Dr trying to keep him alive.  Rant usually starts with "I've been a smoker for 68 years", then moves to career advice for Dr - to give up being a doctor as there's no future in the profession, as once all the smokers have gone they'll have nothing to do as the hospitals will be empty.  Better switch to being an entertainer like a clown - as the entire population will need them to avoid dying from boredom.  This goes down really well of course.  I've never seen a Dr even smile.  I give up - there's nothing we can do.


808 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 534

Trusted

  Reply # 1819004 10-Jul-2017 17:59
2 people support this post
Send private message quote this post


Aussie
3923 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1030

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1819005 10-Jul-2017 18:01
Send private message quote this post

Paul1977: @michaelmurphy I note the strongest Shelleys do is 12mg, do you think that's strong enough for a smoker of 50 years? I had been looking at nzvapor.com as they do 18mg, but no one has mentioned them.

The goal at this point isn't to cut down the nicotine, just to get him of the smokes.

 

12 should be fine. I smoked for 30+ years and used 12 no worries (and I smoked very strong rollies that made rothmans look soft.)


6818 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3142

Moderator
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1819020 10-Jul-2017 18:27
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Paul1977: I note the strongest Shelleys do is 12mg, do you think that's strong enough for a smoker of 50 years? I had been looking at nzvapor.com as they do 18mg, but no one has mentioned them.

The goal at this point isn't to cut down the nicotine, just to get him of the smokes.

 

Yes 12mg is plenty for somebody coming from smoking. Basically to get him off I would recommend grabbing:

 

iCare 140: https://thevapingkiwi.co.nz/eleaf-icare-140-kit
Coils: https://thevapingkiwi.co.nz/eleaf-ic-icare-coil-heads (comes in a 5 pack)
Liquid: One of the Sample packs - http://www.shelley.co.nz/samplepack.php - Coffee Creme is one of my favorites from there too just so he can try a selection.

 

Should be good for I would say a touch over a month of vaping (liquid wise) and from there he can decide which flavors he likes and go from there. With the sample packs I'd always recommend grabbing a wide selection - the flavors I have tried and love are:

Coffee Creme - my absolute favorite from there.
Miami Juice - Menthol with fruity flavors, very nice.
Dragon Slayer - a more sour fruity note.
Kiwi gone Bananas - Something a little different.

 

I find the Tobacco flavors really don't taste too much like it (it is hard to make vapor resemble poison). If you're doing it as a surprise then grab one anyway (Rye Reserve) for him to try otherwise just pick one that sounds good.





Michael Murphy | https://murfy.nz
Want to be with an epic ISP? Want $20 to join them too? Well, use this link to sign up to BigPipe!
The Router GuideCommunity UniFi Cloud Controller | Ubiquiti Edgerouter Tutorial


 1 | 2 | 3
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Phone prices rising as users move upmarket
Posted 24-Nov-2017 17:16


Talking net neutrality on RNZ Nine-to-Noon
Posted 24-Nov-2017 12:11


Air New Zealand experiments with blockchain technology
Posted 23-Nov-2017 15:39


Symantec selects Amazon Web Services to deliver cloud security
Posted 23-Nov-2017 10:40


New Zealand Ministry of Education chooses Unisys for cloud-based education resourcing management system
Posted 22-Nov-2017 22:00


Business analytics software powers profits for NZ wine producers
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:52


Pyrios strikes up alliance with Microsoft integrator UC Logiq
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:51


The New Zealand IT services ecosystem - it's all digital down here
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:49


Volvo to supply tens of thousands of autonomous drive compatible cars to Uber
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:46


From small to medium and beyond: Navigating the ERP battlefield
Posted 21-Nov-2017 21:12


Business owners: ERP software selection starts (and finishes) with you
Posted 21-Nov-2017 21:11


Why I'm not an early adopter
Posted 21-Nov-2017 10:39


Netatmo launches smart home products in New Zealand
Posted 20-Nov-2017 20:06


Huawei Mate 10: Punchy, long battery life, artificial intelligence
Posted 20-Nov-2017 16:30


Propel launch Disney Star Wars Laser Battle Drones
Posted 19-Nov-2017 21:26



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.