We screw up the planet wherever we go and that is not going to change any time soon.

Agent Smith got it right - we are a virus.

Haven't watched this, but I have some inside perspective on the way some reporters work. 

My sister is in the 'industry' and has taken a stance on various subjects, such as rugby players are bad, NZ is a dirty polluted hell hole, many large companies cover up cancer causing operations. 

And, she will try and 'discover' stories that could be spun to support her views. 

Not saying this is the case with this particular aljazeera doco. But keep in mind that there are a lot of kiwis working for aljazeera. And, lets just say, not many of them would be national voters. 

Just be very wary of how stories can be misrepresented and throwaway soundbites taken out of context and turned into major conspiracy plot points.   Need to apply critical thinking skills and not accept stories at face value. Maybe it is true, maybe not. 

Sure, and stories can also be the result of independent research by dedicated, serious investigators. I live in Hawke's Bay and have closely followed the dam fiasco from the beginning. I would say the Al Jazeera documentary is spot on.

surfisup1000:

 

Haven't watched this, but I have some inside perspective on the way some reporters work. 

 

My sister is in the 'industry' and has taken a stance on various subjects, such as rugby players are bad, NZ is a dirty polluted hell hole, many large companies cover up cancer causing operations. 

 

And, she will try and 'discover' stories that could be spun to support her views. 

 

Not saying this is the case with this particular aljazeera doco. But keep in mind that there are a lot of kiwis working for aljazeera. And, lets just say, not many of them would be national voters. 

 

Just be very wary of how stories can be misrepresented and throwaway soundbites taken out of context and turned into major conspiracy plot points.   Need to apply critical thinking skills and not accept stories at face value. Maybe it is true, maybe not. 

 

 

Rikkitic:

 

Sure, and stories can also be the result of independent research by dedicated, serious investigators. I live in Hawke's Bay and have closely followed the dam fiasco from the beginning. I would say the Al Jazeera documentary is spot on.

 

 

Hence the widespread media scepticism.  I don't know who to believe and what to believe anymore whenever I read or watch something these days.

MikeB4:

Geektastic:

It would be interesting to see how European nations manage to have dairying and clean(er) rivers.

 

I used to work for one of the large water and sewage companies in the UK and I recall one of the engineers saying that they could actually take the discharge water from the sewage plant and use it as intake water for the water treatment plant, but the public perception would be that they could not, so they discharged the sewage plant water into the river and sucked it out a mile or two downstream to treat and put into supply.

I suspect that part of the NZ problem is the fact that there is no national water system and no national rivers protection authority. With every council paddling it's own canoe as far as water etc goes it is not really a recipe for the application of universal standards and methods across NZ.

It does not take much research to reveal that the UK and Europe is not better if not worse.

Rikkitic:

Sure, and stories can also be the result of independent research by dedicated, serious investigators. I live in Hawke's Bay and have closely followed the dam fiasco from the beginning. I would say the Al Jazeera documentary is spot on.

 

Fred99:

 

Embedded links:

 

Part 1 now "private". That's annoying.

That's what AirNZ should play during taxi, first part before take off and second after landing.

GeekGuy:

I use to go fishing for kawhai  where the Ngaruroro River & Tukituki River met the ocean at Awatoto and Haumoana 30 years ago..

I dont think I could ever do that again.

Last time I looked at the Karamu Stream at Clive I was disgusted on how bad it looked.