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Topic # 223760 16-Oct-2017 13:12
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Pretty sure this is a scam but thought I'd ask in case anyone has heard of them.

Was up at the in-law's in Auckland in the weekend and they had received a letter in the mail from this group claiming to be professional researchers who have found an unclaimed asset they are entitled to and had their previous address where they have not lived for 15 years. Not asking for money or bank details at this stage but they want ID and proof of the former address.

The letter gives the name of their lawyers who are in Lambton Quay in Wellington so they want me to go and see if the lawyers actually exist and whether I can find out anything. Quick Google of the lawyer's name finds he was kicked out of rotary after being convicted of indecent assault years ago.

Has to be a scam right?

Just went to find the lawyer's office and the doors were locked and there was no answer. Several other law firms are located on the same floor so appears to be a real firm.

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  Reply # 1884317 16-Oct-2017 13:15
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Id still be wary, even if there were funds for you, prob find the lawyers "finders fee" would be extravagant :-p

 

 





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  Reply # 1884332 16-Oct-2017 13:20
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Yeah its 25% apparently. If it was something real then presumably if you can find out what it is you can go to the source ditectly.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1884335 16-Oct-2017 13:22
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http://sanclaro.com

I'm on the fence.


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  Reply # 1884337 16-Oct-2017 13:26
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Probably worth scanning the letter and sending it to DIA https://www.dia.govt.nz/diawebsite.nsf/wpg_URL/Services-Anti-Spam-Postal-scams

 

 


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  Reply # 1884378 16-Oct-2017 14:35
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Their website looks legit. The company name is legit, and they were registered in 2015. The lawyers office they are registered at looks legit too.

 

I don't smell anything fishy there.

 

I wonder what the unclaimed asset is? Can it hurt to contact them?


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  Reply # 1884379 16-Oct-2017 14:36
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If it's legit, then there must be something out there.

 

Check this list: http://www.ird.govt.nz/unclaimed-money/unclaimed-money-index.html

 

if no luck then dig a bit deeper: http://www.treasury.govt.nz/abouttreasury/services/unclaimedmoney

 

Good luck!




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  Reply # 1884509 16-Oct-2017 18:39
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Hmm, they are not on the IRD list and not aware of any estranged relatives. My Father in law has 3 sisters who would presumably be equally entitled to any inheritance and they have not been contacted so not sure what else it could be if legit. Weird that it's linked to their old address from 15 years ago too. If it's real the only thing they can think of is maybe Government bonds as they had some many years ago that they forgot about and are not sure if they ever updated their address.


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  Reply # 1884511 16-Oct-2017 18:48
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mail from this group claiming to be professional researchers who have found an unclaimed asset they are entitled to

 

 Oh of course. Unclaimed assets just pop up all the time, and random strangers contact you about it.

 

 


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  Reply # 1884518 16-Oct-2017 18:57
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But you wouldn't want to die wondering!


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  Reply # 1884739 17-Oct-2017 07:14
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Sounds scammish to me too.There's been a number of snail-mail scam letters going around lately. The fact that the lawyer and Sanclaro are real doesn't mean the letter is genuine. Ring the lawyer (using a phone number from whitepages.co.nz, not from the letter) and ask.

 

Can you post the letter here (or parts thereof if any of it is personal)?

 

 




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  Reply # 1884907 17-Oct-2017 10:21
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Here is the letter. Know it's a scam but no harm doing a little digging.

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  Reply # 1884911 17-Oct-2017 10:36
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Unclaimed assets are massive business in the UK. There are billions of pounds unclaimed over there.

 

Never really heard of these companies working in NZ though. Could it be from an overseas long lost relative?


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  Reply # 1884953 17-Oct-2017 11:03
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invisibleman18:

 

Hmm, they are not on the IRD list and not aware of any estranged relatives. My Father in law has 3 sisters who would presumably be equally entitled to any inheritance and they have not been contacted so not sure what else it could be if legit. Weird that it's linked to their old address from 15 years ago too. If it's real the only thing they can think of is maybe Government bonds as they had some many years ago that they forgot about and are not sure if they ever updated their address.

 

 

SanClaro list "Executor service"  as they company classification at the companies office,

 

https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/5657067?backurl=%2Fcompanies%2Fapp%2Fui%2Fpages%2Fcompanies%2Fsearch%3Fmode%3Dstandard%26type%3Dentities%26q%3Dsanclaro

 

I would give them a bell and ask them what its all about,

 

They are all NZ listed businesses, and lawyer mentioned holds a current practicing certificate from the NZ law society


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  Reply # 1885013 17-Oct-2017 11:40
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Yeah, that letter is a bit vague and generic.  I'd call them for more details. Once they explain the link you can independently check it for authenticity through births/deaths/marriages in the relevant country. They say they don't ask for money up front, just a commission once the deal is done, which means it shouldn't cost to ask questions etc.


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  Reply # 1885014 17-Oct-2017 11:40
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The letter doesn't appear to be a scam in the traditional Nigerian advance-fee way. They explicitly say that they don't want any fees up front, and the lawyer's number is correct as per Yellow Pages. There's also a NZ number to contact.

 

OTOH, there is no way to really identify who sent it; all you have is a cellphone and a PO Box. And they're asking for copies of *both* sides of a bank card.

 

I'd think that it probably is genuine; somehow this company has stumbled across some money or asset, which might relate to your inlaws. Possibly, as someone suggested, they specialise in searching for unclaimed assets.

 

It might be worth doing a bit of research to see if you can find this asset yourselves, rather than giving 25% to these guys.

 

Maybe it's a block of land somewhere? You could be the proud (part-)owner of a quarter-acre section in Ohura (nominal value $10,000, unsellable even at $100, rates owing $50,000).

 

 


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