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  #1946975 26-Jan-2018 08:18
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tdgeek:

 

Wow. You cant compare Trump doing something unrelated to his role, to a satellite launch company launching a satellite. It cost them money, it will earn no revenue, and its a temporary feel good factor, as compared to what humans normally do, take, take, take.

 

 

Why not?

 

Regardless of who does it, it's an egotistical thing to do.

 

The only difference is who's done it, and that's how you're justifying it being OK.

 

If Trump had done it, it would have cost him money, it would earn no revenue but oh, it wouldn't have feel good factor.  Why not?


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  #1946976 26-Jan-2018 08:33
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muppet:

 

tdgeek:

 

Wow. You cant compare Trump doing something unrelated to his role, to a satellite launch company launching a satellite. It cost them money, it will earn no revenue, and its a temporary feel good factor, as compared to what humans normally do, take, take, take.

 

 

Why not?

 

Regardless of who does it, it's an egotistical thing to do.

 

The only difference is who's done it, and that's how you're justifying it being OK.

 

If Trump had done it, it would have cost him money, it would earn no revenue but oh, it wouldn't have feel good factor.  Why not?

 

 

They could have just launched a carbon fibre ball into space as it is just a test at the end of the day...
Instead they did something interesting.. I wouldn't go putting it in an egotistical move category. 

Maybe launching a Roadster in a Falcon launch vehicle is a little egotistical. But hey, I didn't hear anyone calling them out for that.


 
 
 
 




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  #1946980 26-Jan-2018 08:37
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tdgeek:

 

Wow. You cant compare Trump doing something unrelated to his role, to a satellite launch company launching a satellite. It cost them money, it will earn no revenue, and its a temporary feel good factor, as compared to what humans normally do, take, take, take.

 

 

Why not?

 

Regardless of who does it, it's an egotistical thing to do.

 

The only difference is who's done it, and that's how you're justifying it being OK.

 

If Trump had done it, it would have cost him money, it would earn no revenue but oh, it wouldn't have feel good factor.  Why not?

 

 

I guess you have answered your own question. Believe it or not, not all humans do things without an evil angle to it. Instead of having an opinion that they may have acted in an egotistical manner, you have decided they have, as would anybody else. Like I said, humans often take take take, its all about power, money, control, and in todays world of mistrust and cynicism, thats all it can be. But, people can and do things for a feel good reason, it does happen.


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  #1946990 26-Jan-2018 09:14
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How does one "read" the tracking picture?

 

It circles the earth every 90 minutes and moves a few degrees each time, but in what direction?  East or West?  

 

If one misses seeing it one day, will it still be visible the next?

 

 


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  #1947008 26-Jan-2018 09:27
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...

 

Regardless of who does it, it's an egotistical thing to do.

 

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Somewhat maybe, but a hell of a lot more funky and interesting than a Facebook post.





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  #1947027 26-Jan-2018 10:28
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I'm in the anti camp.
Seems a bit unnecessary and bit of a gimmick. (like Musk putting his Tesla on top of the heavy rocket next month)

The international space station is visible to the naked eye and there are websites which tell you the transit times based on your location.

A large space station with permanent crew of people is much more interesting to me than a glowing dot.


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  #1947032 26-Jan-2018 10:40
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afe66: I'm in the anti camp.
Seems a bit unnecessary and bit of a gimmick. (like Musk putting his Tesla on top of the heavy rocket next month)

The international space station is visible to the naked eye and there are websites which tell you the transit times based on your location.

A large space station with permanent crew of people is much more interesting to me than a glowing dot.

 

 

 

So would you rather they put something else in there?  
Genuinely curious as to why people are anti? What if the carbon fibre ball was a matte colour and not reflective and they just called it a "test payload that will deorbit in 90 days"? Just because it reflects light does it really make it something to be against?



 
 
 
 


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  #1947034 26-Jan-2018 10:47
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I tore this jackass a new one and this happened lol.

 

 

 

 

He's not a jackass, and his photos are some of the best of the southern aurora available... pull your head in.


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  #1947035 26-Jan-2018 10:47
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So would you rather they put something else in there?  
Genuinely curious as to why people are anti? What if the carbon fibre ball was a matte colour and not reflective and they just called it a "test payload that will deorbit in 90 days"? Just because it reflects light does it really make it something to be against?

 

I'm anti because it's a pointless, "hey look at me" exercise.  This is Space (Well, the Earth's atmosphere), it's got enough junk and crap floating around in it already.  If this was one of the first 5 odd rockets to make it up to up there then yea, all for it.  But we (mankind) know how to launch rockets - you're not breaking new ground or doing anything that hasn't been done 100 times before here.  This is just showboating look-at-me.  I hope it does burn up as planned, otherwise it's just more pointless space garbage floating around up there.

 

I guess it might get kids in school interested in space, so from that aspect it's maybe useful.


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  #1947036 26-Jan-2018 10:49
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Coil:

 

I tore this jackass a new one and this happened lol.

 

 

 

 

He's not a jackass, and his photos are some of the best of the southern aurora available... pull your head in.

 

 

 

 

His opinions and how he conveyed them justified such :)
All entitled to an opinion. 


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  #1947040 26-Jan-2018 10:59
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Coil:

 

I tore this jackass a new one and this happened lol.

 

 

 

 

He's not a jackass, and his photos are some of the best of the southern aurora available... pull your head in.

 

 

 

 

I would disagree with his photos being "some of the best" personally. 

 

If you want to be wowed by kiwi astrophotographers looks at Mikey Mack or Paul Wilson.

 

 


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  #1947045 26-Jan-2018 11:04
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Coil:

 

blakamin:

 

Coil:

 

I tore this jackass a new one and this happened lol.

 

 

 

 

He's not a jackass, and his photos are some of the best of the southern aurora available... pull your head in.

 

 

 

 

His opinions and how he conveyed them justified such :)
All entitled to an opinion. 

 

 

So you go on twitter, troll him, then come back here and show off about it and add "lol"?

 

 

 

Who's the jackass? Or just a 12 year old?


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  #1947047 26-Jan-2018 11:05
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Stan:

 

blakamin:

 

Coil:

 

I tore this jackass a new one and this happened lol.

 

 

 

 

He's not a jackass, and his photos are some of the best of the southern aurora available... pull your head in.

 

 

 

 

I would disagree with his photos being "some of the best" personally. 

 

If you want to be wowed by kiwi astrophotographers looks at Mikey Mack or Paul Wilson.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I said "some" not "the".


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On the fence on this one.  

 

The technology used to build and run the rocket (if  read correctly) is a world first, so in that respect the achievement has not been done "100 times before". 

 

I like the cool factor and have used the website to raise the kids interest.  We will be out trying to see it for sure...from an educational perspective its wonderful. 

 

Egotistical or celebrating a wonderful achievement?  We are great in this country at cutting down the tall-poppies.  I reckon they have earned the right to celebrate by doing something cool that involves everyone and raises the profile at the same time - clever.      

 

Not sure about the 'humanity' symbolism - it will last 3 months and then be completely destroyed going out in a blazing fire of glory...hmmmm.  Art imitating life?  The doomsday clock has just moved again thanks to the two nutters in charge.  

 

 

 

 

 

  





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Coil:

 

So would you rather they put something else in there?  
Genuinely curious as to why people are anti? What if the carbon fibre ball was a matte colour and not reflective and they just called it a "test payload that will deorbit in 90 days"? Just because it reflects light does it really make it something to be against?

 

I'm anti because it's a pointless, "hey look at me" exercise.  This is Space (Well, the Earth's atmosphere), it's got enough junk and crap floating around in it already.  If this was one of the first 5 odd rockets to make it up to up there then yea, all for it.  But we (mankind) know how to launch rockets - you're not breaking new ground or doing anything that hasn't been done 100 times before here.  This is just showboating look-at-me.  I hope it does burn up as planned, otherwise it's just more pointless space garbage floating around up there.

 

I guess it might get kids in school interested in space, so from that aspect it's maybe useful.

 

 

 

 

I highly doubt it was pointless, i'm sure the collected plenty of data when deploying it, I guess they had an option of putting up a plain black ball in orbit but decided to do something a little different at probably a little extra cost. 


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