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  #1947586 27-Jan-2018 16:33
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JimmyH:

 

Back on topic, I'm in two minds about this.

 

On one hand, I think they are to be commended for their technology, and if it gets kids interested in space then it's a very cool thing. Of itself, their bright little beacon isn't a particularly terrible thing.

 

On the other hand, if this can be done cheaply, I am dreading to think what the scourge of our society might do with it. By which I mean the marketers. I won't be happy if five-to-ten years from I look up at the night Sky and see a procession of bright little coloured "Eat McDonalds", "Drink Coke", "Play Lotto" and "Smoke Marlboro" messages sailing past.

 

 

 

 

Thats where there needs to be global laws to prevent that. It would be considered visual pollution. Much like some councils now consider light over spilling or directed onto someone elses property, light pollution.  


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  #1947591 27-Jan-2018 16:53
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Mistenfuru:

 

I agree, Anything that increases peoples curiosity in Space and Science can never be bad.

 

 

And why? Being curious about space doesn't accomplish much that is useful.

 

It is a piece of space junk anyway.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #1947594 27-Jan-2018 17:30
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pctek:

 

Mistenfuru:

 

I agree, Anything that increases peoples curiosity in Space and Science can never be bad.

 

 

And why? Being curious about space doesn't accomplish much that is useful.

 

It is a piece of space junk anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it does. If noone had an interest, than noone would aspire to work in the industry. eg Rocket Labs probably wouldn't even exist, if the people behind it didn't become curious in space at some stage in the past. eg Seeing a shuttle launch when they were young etc.




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  #1947620 27-Jan-2018 19:52
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I created this thread. So, there is a topic that is not cynical, conspiracy theory, egotistical, about money, about power, about politics.

 

Its a feel good neutral thread. But no, its all of the above. 

 

There are relevant comments re space junk, but like most space junk it has a decaying orbit, so thats fine. 

 

I should have created a thread of "Trump is quite a Nice Guy" and left it at that by the looks of it. 

 

We, the modern human race are a cynical lot, excusing those whose comments, weren't




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  #1947622 27-Jan-2018 19:55
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mattwnz:

 

pctek:

 

Mistenfuru:

 

I agree, Anything that increases peoples curiosity in Space and Science can never be bad.

 

 

And why? Being curious about space doesn't accomplish much that is useful.

 

It is a piece of space junk anyway.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes it does. If noone had an interest, than noone would aspire to work in the industry. eg Rocket Labs probably wouldn't even exist, if the people behind it didn't become curious in space at some stage in the past. eg Seeing a shuttle launch when they were young etc.

 

 

+1 The Universe is amazing, and that is a massive understatement. Its like looking at your roots, and thanks to modern science and technology, we know a lot about the Earth the it was just a few million years old. A molten ball of lava. Look where we are now. Todays realty is apps. Lets go back to the real world and look at our past. 


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pctek:

 

Mistenfuru:

 

I agree, Anything that increases peoples curiosity in Space and Science can never be bad.

 

 

And why? Being curious about space doesn't accomplish much that is useful.

 

It is a piece of space junk anyway.

 

 

Space exploration has benefited everyone from the cheap airfares we enjoy (planes are built on light materials developed for space exploration) to GPS technology (satellites) to more accurate weather prediction.

 

From a longer term view, our time on Earth is limited, assuming we don't destroy ourselves or make the planet unhabitable, our options are to go underwater, go underground, or go to space. Of those three the latter offers the most potential. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #1947795 28-Jan-2018 10:33
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I would guess that cockroaches don't have much curiosity about space, either. One's sense of wonder is limited by one's imagination. Fortunately that does not limit others, as long as the limited one is not in charge of budgeting.

 

 

 

 





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  #1947910 28-Jan-2018 17:58

How long until someone uses the humanity star for a 3rd party use? Maybe fire a laser at it and measure the amount of reflected light.

Or fire high powered lasers of different colors at it, and use it literally as a disco ball. So they can have the first dance party with lighting effects provided from space.





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tdgeek:

 

I created this thread. So, there is a topic that is not cynical, conspiracy theory, egotistical, about money, about power, about politics.

 

Its a feel good neutral thread. But no, its all of the above. 

 

 

 

 

Don't let it get to you mate, some people just can't help themselves.

 

 

 

Re the satellite, have people seen it in NZ yet?  (sorry, there's 6 pages of the above to wade through now)

 

Every time I check the tracker it seems to be dark over NZ.

 

 


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  #1948105 29-Jan-2018 12:38
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tdgeek:

 

I created this thread. So, there is a topic that is not cynical, conspiracy theory, egotistical, about money, about power, about politics.

 

Its a feel good neutral thread. But no, its all of the above. 

 

 

Yes, you did.

 

And I contributed to some of that, so my apologies.  That was a dick thing to do. I too hate it when people pile on in ways that wasn't asked for, and I've gone and done it myself.

 

My bad, I'm a muppet, I'm sorry.

 

Tim




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  #1948111 29-Jan-2018 12:53
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muppet:

 

tdgeek:

 

I created this thread. So, there is a topic that is not cynical, conspiracy theory, egotistical, about money, about power, about politics.

 

Its a feel good neutral thread. But no, its all of the above. 

 

 

Yes, you did.

 

And I contributed to some of that, so my apologies.  That was a dick thing to do. I too hate it when people pile on in ways that wasn't asked for, and I've gone and done it myself.

 

My bad, I'm a muppet, I'm sorry.

 

Tim

 

 

:-)

 

Its probably modern times that a topic cannot be found that doesnt contain any nefarious factors. 


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Even if it was an ego-trip (and I don't think it was) ....  after what they have achieved so far I think Rocket Lab are entitled to a little attention seeking.  And it makes good business sense too ...

 

Why not have your first payload visible to potential customers





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  #1948130 29-Jan-2018 13:28
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MikeAqua:

 

Even if it was an ego-trip (and I don't think it was) ....  after what they have achieved so far I think Rocket Lab are entitled to a little attention seeking.  And it makes good business sense too ...

 

Why not have your first payload visible to potential customers

 

 

That's how I see it. Its no big deal, a rocket launching industry in NZ is a first, so why not a little fanfare


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  #1948145 29-Jan-2018 14:16
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tdgeek:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Even if it was an ego-trip (and I don't think it was) ....  after what they have achieved so far I think Rocket Lab are entitled to a little attention seeking.  And it makes good business sense too ...

 

Why not have your first payload visible to potential customers

 

 

That's how I see it. Its no big deal, a rocket launching industry in NZ is a first, so why not a little fanfare

 



The limited life was a good idea too, so there's no long lasting impacts.


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  #1948147 29-Jan-2018 14:23

MikeAqua:

Even if it was an ego-trip (and I don't think it was) ....  after what they have achieved so far I think Rocket Lab are entitled to a little attention seeking.  And it makes good business sense too ...


Why not have your first payload visible to potential customers



Also it is a demonstration that they have the means to deliver payloads into predefined orbits. Even when the payload doesn't contain its own maneuvering system.





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