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  Reply # 1948078 29-Jan-2018 11:27
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jjnz1:

 

I am in favour of this... I would buy 1 bottle per day or every other day..

 

 

 

Plastic can be recycled, but depending on your council/area, and the cleanliness of the bottles, they may just get thrown out or shipped off to another country.

 

At least with glass, we are not supporting the plastic industry, and they are recycled/reused locally.

 

Someone needs to start a petition page...

 

 

 

 

May get thrown out or shipped off? According to the media it's a statistical certainty. This Stuff article claims that there is not a single plastic recycling facility located within New Zealand - it is merely sorted here before being shipped offshore, where it is recycled or dumped.

 

 

 

"China's import ban on dirty plastic [which started this month] has thrown the spotlight on our reliance on Asia's recycling plants, proving a need for facilities here.

 

But the Government has indicated it is unlikely to be throwing ministry money into getting recycling plants off the ground here, meaning Kiwi recycling will continue to be shipped overseas.

 

From this month, China will no longer accept many different types of waste, including all plastics, because of contamination problems.

 

Australia-based Visy Recycling, Reclaim, Green Gorilla, EnviroWaste and Waste Management are the major operators that collect and sort New Zealanders' waste.

 

None of them process it for re-use as new products. Rather, they clean it and organise it into waste groups to send elsewhere. Sometimes that elsewhere is a landfill".

 

 

 

The reality is that if a plastic bottle has not been washed, or if the lid has not been removed before being put in your recycling bin, it will almost certainly end up in landfill, in either New Zealand or Asia.


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  Reply # 1948080 29-Jan-2018 11:33
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Bottle milk was the best when it had an inch of cream at the top :)

 

 

you can still buy whole milk with the cream (as opposed to homogenised)


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1948081 29-Jan-2018 11:49
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Batman:

 

you can still buy whole milk with the cream (as opposed to homogenised)

 

 

Sure, but it's not the same as tearing the foil off a glass bottle with condensation dripping off it. :)


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  Reply # 1948087 29-Jan-2018 12:20
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May get thrown out or shipped off? According to the media it's a statistical certainty. This Stuff article claims that there is not a single plastic recycling facility located within New Zealand - it is merely sorted here before being shipped offshore, where it is recycled or dumped.

 

Which is complete bollox, and again shows that there is no internal story checking that goes on at stuff ( but hey we have another long running thread on that elsewhe)

 

Comspec in CHC recycle HDPE and have done so for almost a decade,

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/86013810/recycling-the-last-resort-before-landfill

 

While Flight in Wellington recycle PET into food trays and other products

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/98243128/curiouscity-how-6000-tonnes-of-plastic-bottles-a-year-are-recycled-in-wellington

 

granted they don't have current capacity to process all of NZ's plastic bottles, but to run the line that there is no plastic reprocessing in NZ is not correct,


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  Reply # 1948116 29-Jan-2018 13:05
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gehenna:

 

Batman:

 

you can still buy whole milk with the cream (as opposed to homogenised) 

 

Sure, but it's not the same as tearing the foil off a glass bottle with condensation dripping off it. :) 

 

Or discovering that the sparrows had beaten you to it and your foil top was no longer whole, but holed laughing


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  Reply # 1948559 30-Jan-2018 11:13
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gehenna:

 

Bottle milk was the best when it had an inch of cream at the top :)

 

 

But now you can buy milk that looks and tastes like it has 4 inches of water added to the carton!

 

 

And join the mass delusion that it's healthier for you.





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  Reply # 1948582 30-Jan-2018 12:13
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In the UK if we were too slow in getting the milk from the doorstep you'd find the Blue Tits had peeled the top off for you and helkped themselves to the cream!


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