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  Reply # 1955603 12-Feb-2018 11:12
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I too started out on the breadmaker / heatgun approach, used it for 2-3 years for roasting coffee (and get my beans from greanbeanhouse too). It really is fun, messy but fun. You don't need to modify the breadmaker so long as it has a good "dough only" mode. Mine was a Breville somethingorother that had a dough cycle that ran for 30+ minutes, ample time as most roasts were around 15 mins +/- depending on conditions. I also built a wooden stand to go over my breadmaker that I mounted the heatgun too, this meant a consistent height above the beans and you don't have to stand there and hold the HG for 30 mins. If you search on www.coffeesnobs.com.au for a "coretto", this was one of the originators of the method.

 

A few years ago I upgraded to a Behmor1600plus home roaster. The difference in the quality of the roast was immediately obvious. I considered myself a fairly experienced home roaster using the BM/HG combo, but the taste profile of the beans fresh (rested 3-7 days) from the Behmor was amazing and somewhat unexpected. Batch sizes are slightly smaller than BM, 400gms in Behmor vs 5-600 in the BM, but its still plenty. Plus, I now roast indoors (on the kitchen elements under the vent), something you definitely could (should) not do with the BM / HG combo.

 

 


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  Reply # 1955619 12-Feb-2018 11:28
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I have a Jura F9 and this is the second Jura I have. It isnt perfect, but I drink a lot of coffee and its great having a one button flat white. I always use a good fresh coffee and usually its as almost as good as a cafe coffee. Way cheaper than pods.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1955697 12-Feb-2018 13:38
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For a low cost investment give Aeropress a try.  I have one and it makes pretty good espresso (to my Nescafe accustomed tastebuds at least)




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  Reply # 1955701 12-Feb-2018 13:52
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Thanks everyone

 

Most of the super-dooper machines are out of my budget, hence my original comment re Silvia/Gaggia Classic etc. I am surprised that only one person has experience with either of these machines - who knew there were so many rockets around. I can't really justify $4k for one coffee a day....

 

I guess i can wait awhile and keep an eye on TM and see if any of the better machines/grinders come up second hand as i'm very anti-breville/sunbeam/nespresso type machines that are designed to fail in a couple of years. I also hate the coffee from the automatic machines, nespresso always seems to be lukewarm and the milk is odd. I like a Wellington flat white but i work from home....far from Wellington and any cafes. Otherwise the stovetop (which i've used in the past) or aeropress would be good options.

 

 


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  Reply # 1955768 12-Feb-2018 14:38
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Have a Nespresso U at home.  Great for a quick black coffee with a decent taste

 

At work we have the  Breville Creatista, which I like because of the automatic frother wand.

 

Makes a decent flat white without the mess of the larger machines,  very quickly

 

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  Reply # 1955780 12-Feb-2018 14:55
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Also recommend a chemex.  Combined with nice fresh beans these things are very good.   

 

 


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  Reply # 1955790 12-Feb-2018 15:09
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I used to have rocket Espresso machine.  I was very happy with it, but my own abilities were rather limited.  Nowadays I too have gone Nespresso.  I

 

t makes consistently OK coffee and better IMO than other pod machines or other pods in the Nespresso machine.  It is important to figure out which flavours you like and to use the correct extraction length for each pod.

 

I allow myself one proper barrista made FW each day.

 

I have the same red rubbish bin as Fred99.  It's a good bin.





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  Reply # 1955925 12-Feb-2018 17:59
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I have also tried a few manual ways to make an "espresso" style coffee on my boat. The best by far is the Nanopresso system:

 

 

 

https://www.wacaco.com/pages/nanopresso

 

 

 

behind that I would rate Aeropress and Moka about equal, different taste profiles because the Moka is stovetop of course but a decent coffee is possible from both with abit of experimentation.


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  Reply # 1955933 12-Feb-2018 18:20
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freitasm:

 

Interesting, saw this Breville Infuser at Briscoes last weekend. Not recommending it, saw the article on my RSS feed just now so though I should post a link.

 

 

 

 

I just read this morning that it comes highly recommended as a starter machine. Read it in endgadget or mashable or one of those...but iy won over several other machines.


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  Reply # 1955967 12-Feb-2018 19:45
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dafman:

 

Guv & Senecio - you've planted a seed and got me interested in roasting at home. I've just done a search on trade me and it looks like there is quite a bit to see on home roasting. Any hints/advice you can give would be great - like, for starters, where do you purchase the beans from?

 

 

 

 

Just like @Guv, I too buy my beans from https://www.greenbeanhouse.co.nz. I roasted for years with a popcorn machine but just last year I convinced the better half to let me upgrade to the Behmor 1600+. The difference is incredible. While the popcorn machine is a great place to start moving from air roasting to radiant heat roasting is so much better. The radiant heat from the Behmor allows the full flavour potential of the beans to be realised rather than over cooking the outside and leaving the inside under developed. 

 

 

 

I love to experiment with different beans but right now I have a couple of staples I keep coming back to.

 

 

 

The Guatemala Huehuetenango is a great around bean and often forms up to 50% of my blends

 

https://www.greenbeanhouse.co.nz/product/GuatemalaHuehuetenangoGuayabFTO

 

 

 

The Ethiopian Yirga Chef is my pick when you want something lighter.

 

https://www.greenbeanhouse.co.nz/product/EthiopiaYirgaCheffeOromiaFTO

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1955975 12-Feb-2018 20:07
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As with some comments above, I would definitely say the grinder is the most important thing for getting the best coffee.

 

I've had a Rancilio Silvia (maybe Gen 1) about, 16-17 years ago now, which is rather disheartening when I think about it that way.  But it made great coffee, though needed some tricks to get the best out of it like temp surfing and such.  I had various grinders with it, from the Rancilio Rocky to La Cimbali Max, to Mazzer Super Jollys.  I really do think investing in a decent grinder does wonders, especially if you get good fresh beans.  A hand grinder, like a Hario Skerton, Porlex or some of the Felgrind or Orphan Espresso units do really good grinds as well, though they do take a bit longer than the electric variants (and are a pain if you need to do several shots)

 

Getting something like a Breville Smart Grinder would be good to cover all your filter and espresso needs - I have one that I use for filter/plunger/aeropress etc, but it has a good range and can do decent espresso grinds too.  The Baratza Sette 270 is another which is worth considering, though it is more expensive.  But there are usually a range of second hand ones on TM as well.

 

But if you make milky coffees, you might want to look at a heat exchanger machine if your budget extents to that, or possibly a dual boiler if it stretches further.  The workflow of not having to wait for the single boiler to heat up or cool down saves a lot of time, especially if there is repetition and you need to make a few coffees in one go.  The Silvia was a pain if you needed to do two or more I found, and the temp would continue to rise unless you were running some PID mod.

 

I would probably suggest something like a Breville Dual Boiler machine - they can be found quite cheap at times with the Smart Grinder - maybe around $1200 on sale or sometimes less?  They do a great job for the price I think, and the quality of Breville has improved.

 

But Silvia built quality was good, solid and all, though I found single boilers a bit of a hassle to use when I went back to them.

 

I personally wouldn't go down the Nespresso track, though having said that I got a Nespresso Creatista Plus for my folks, mainly for the convenience.  The espresso I find is consistently average (using the 8-10 or 11/12 specials), but I was surprised at the steaming on the unit which does well with the milk, compared to most other super auto type units.

 

Yann :)

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1956194 13-Feb-2018 10:39
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There have been lots of expensive coffee machines mentioned in this thread , well expensive to me anyway .

 

 

 

My partner brought me one of these http://www.brevilleusasupport.com/800esxl/overview/special-features/

 

I have used it almost daily since i got it about seven years ago and it hasn't missed a beat .

 

I love  real coffee and it may not have all the bells and whistles but the coffee tastes great to me ( i don't ever drink instant coffee )


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  Reply # 1956272 13-Feb-2018 11:44
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marlinz:

 

There have been lots of expensive coffee machines mentioned in this thread , well expensive to me anyway .

 

 

 

My partner brought me one of these http://www.brevilleusasupport.com/800esxl/overview/special-features/

 

I have used it almost daily since i got it about seven years ago and it hasn't missed a beat .

 

I love  real coffee and it may not have all the bells and whistles but the coffee tastes great to me ( i don't ever drink instant coffee )

 

 

Breville has a great name in coffee machines. I would still class this as an expensive one.


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  Reply # 1956350 13-Feb-2018 14:16
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For the milk frother part of using the aeropress I have a cheap Breville milkshake maker, with microwaved hot milk.


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