Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | ... | 17
11263 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3584

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1965505 28-Feb-2018 09:17
Send private message quote this post

tdgeek:

 

Geektastic: So a week to go and still no documents.

Is it an offence not to fill in something they don't send you?

 

How do you know they didnt send it? Seems like everyone has theirs. Check the local PO perhaps. They may just give you home detention and 30 lashes for a first offence

 

 


Well, I checked our PO Box Monday and Tuesday and it was not there. I will check each day this week until the weekend and up to the day of the event. If it never arrives, I cannot really complete it.






515 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 155

Subscriber

  Reply # 1965514 28-Feb-2018 09:27
Send private message quote this post

Geektastic:

 

tdgeek:

 

Geektastic: So a week to go and still no documents.

Is it an offence not to fill in something they don't send you?

 

How do you know they didnt send it? Seems like everyone has theirs. Check the local PO perhaps. They may just give you home detention and 30 lashes for a first offence

 

 

Well, I checked our PO Box Monday and Tuesday and it was not there. I will check each day this week until the weekend and up to the day of the event. If it never arrives, I cannot really complete it.

 

 

Do you not have a letterbox at your "dwelling"? As I'm not sure if they send them to PO Boxes since it's based on the physical property/dwelling.


589 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 103
Inactive user


  Reply # 1965515 28-Feb-2018 09:28
Send private message quote this post

Ours went straight in the trash can.

4354 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1730


  Reply # 1965525 28-Feb-2018 09:34
Send private message quote this post

UHD:

 

MikeAqua:

 

I have my browsers configured to reject cookies.  So I guess it won't be possible to compete the census.

 

 

I see you don't use much of the internet at all then.

 

 

I accept cookies for sites I want to stay logged into (e.g. GZ or NBR).  Otherwise I generally browse in incognito mode. 

 

This very rarely stops me from accessing anything I want to look at.





Mike

11263 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3584

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1965527 28-Feb-2018 09:36
Send private message quote this post

Benjip:

 

Geektastic:

 

tdgeek:

 

Geektastic: So a week to go and still no documents.

Is it an offence not to fill in something they don't send you?

 

How do you know they didnt send it? Seems like everyone has theirs. Check the local PO perhaps. They may just give you home detention and 30 lashes for a first offence

 

 

Well, I checked our PO Box Monday and Tuesday and it was not there. I will check each day this week until the weekend and up to the day of the event. If it never arrives, I cannot really complete it.

 

 

Do you not have a letterbox at your "dwelling"? As I'm not sure if they send them to PO Boxes since it's based on the physical property/dwelling.

 

 

 

 

No, we do not. Nor can strangers enter the property without climbing the fence.






1856 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 355

Subscriber

  Reply # 1965535 28-Feb-2018 09:45
Send private message quote this post

Is it too much to ring them and get a resolution? 0800 236 787


11263 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3584

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1965656 28-Feb-2018 11:20
Send private message quote this post

linw:

 

Is it too much to ring them and get a resolution? 0800 236 787

 

 

 

 

I'm trying to establish whether my legal obligation to complete it extends to assisting them to deliver it...






4354 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1730


  Reply # 1965712 28-Feb-2018 11:50
Send private message quote this post

Geektastic:

 

linw:

 

Is it too much to ring them and get a resolution? 0800 236 787

 

 

I'm trying to establish whether my legal obligation to complete it extends to assisting them to deliver it...

 

 

 

 

You are supposed to try and obtain the form.

 

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1975/0001/latest/DLM430900.html

 

Basically if the govt is incompetent in delivery of it's forms/letters etc it's officially the non-recipient's fault.

 

But if they don't know anyone lives at your place...

 

 





Mike

1645 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 755


  Reply # 1965713 28-Feb-2018 11:50
9 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

I'm genuinely surprised at the obstinateness and resistance of some posters here to participate in a pretty simple activity that comes around once every 5 years.

 

I also can't figure out whether these folk have privacy/security concerns, are exercising some form of rebellion, or some other reason.





Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important. (T.S. Eliot)


12284 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2142

Trusted

  Reply # 1965721 28-Feb-2018 11:56
Send private message quote this post

floydbloke:

 

I'm genuinely surprised at the obstinateness and resistance of some posters here to participate in a pretty simple activity that comes around once every 5 years.

 

I also can't figure out whether these folk have privacy/security concerns, are exercising some form of rebellion, or some other reason.

 

 

As long as they dont whine if any Govt plans dont work or dont fit the population density/location


12284 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2142

Trusted

  Reply # 1965725 28-Feb-2018 11:57
Send private message quote this post

MikeAqua:

 

Geektastic:

 

linw:

 

Is it too much to ring them and get a resolution? 0800 236 787

 

 

I'm trying to establish whether my legal obligation to complete it extends to assisting them to deliver it...

 

 

 

 

You are supposed to try and obtain the form.

 

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1975/0001/latest/DLM430900.html

 

Basically if the govt is incompetent in delivery of it's forms/letters etc it's officially the non-recipient's fault.

 

But if they don't know anyone lives at your place...

 

 

 

 

Stats doesnt deliver the mail, NZ Post does. Mail can go missing, nothing has changed. 


4354 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1730


  Reply # 1965736 28-Feb-2018 12:08
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

floydbloke:

 

I'm genuinely surprised at the obstinateness and resistance of some posters here to participate in a pretty simple activity that comes around once every 5 years.

 

I also can't figure out whether these folk have privacy/security concerns, are exercising some form of rebellion, or some other reason.

 

 

My basic objection is two fold:-

 

1) That people are forced to provide information (without consent) and then that information is made available for all manner of research activity, by all manner of third parties.  From a research perspective I see that as unethical.

 

2) Stats sells info that they gain by compulsion.  Stats force citizens and companies to undertake unpaid work to create value for Stats.  I see that as highly unethical.  Pay me minimum wage for my time and I have no objection.  Time cannot be replaced

 

Another observation - the level of detailed information being collected is getting creepy.  I generally object to people sticking their snout into my business.  In particular I object if the interest is from an organisation.

 

Govt agencies have been shown repeatedly and publicly to be poor custodians of private info.  Why would stats be any different?

 

 





Mike

2344 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1133


  Reply # 1965776 28-Feb-2018 12:28
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

MikeAqua:

 

Pay me minimum wage for my time and I have no objection.  Time cannot be replaced

 

 

I don't see the point. Pay you (say) $5 to complete the form. That money has to come from somewhere, so taxes go up and you're no better off. But administering that payment and all the the stuff that goes with it would at least quadruple the cost.

 

 


11263 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3584

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1965820 28-Feb-2018 13:02
Send private message quote this post

MikeAqua:

Geektastic:


linw:


Is it too much to ring them and get a resolution? 0800 236 787



I'm trying to establish whether my legal obligation to complete it extends to assisting them to deliver it...



 


You are supposed to try and obtain the form.


http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1975/0001/latest/DLM430900.html


Basically if the govt is incompetent in delivery of it's forms/letters etc it's officially the non-recipient's fault.


But if they don't know anyone lives at your place...


 



They send us voting papers to the same PO Box so one imagines they know....





11263 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3584

Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 1965822 28-Feb-2018 13:07
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

floydbloke:

I'm genuinely surprised at the obstinateness and resistance of some posters here to participate in a pretty simple activity that comes around once every 5 years.


I also can't figure out whether these folk have privacy/security concerns, are exercising some form of rebellion, or some other reason.



I generally dislike bureaucracy on principle. Also I dislike the fact that they get to force me to do things yet when you want them to do something they habitually take forever, mess it up or demonstrate low competency.






1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | ... | 17
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic

Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

N4L helping TAKA Trust bridge the digital divide for Lower Hutt students
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:08


Winners Announced for 2018 CIO Awards
Posted 18-Jun-2018 13:03


Logitech Rally sets new standard for USB-connected video conference cameras
Posted 18-Jun-2018 09:27


Russell Stanners steps down as Vodafone NZ CEO
Posted 12-Jun-2018 09:13


Intergen recognised as 2018 Microsoft Country Partner of the Year for New Zealand
Posted 12-Jun-2018 08:00


Finalists Announced For Microsoft NZ Partner Awards
Posted 6-Jun-2018 15:12


Vocus Group and Vodafone announce joint venture to accelerate fibre innovation
Posted 5-Jun-2018 10:52


Kogan.com to launch Kogan Mobile in New Zealand
Posted 4-Jun-2018 14:34


Enable doubles fibre broadband speeds for its most popular wholesale service in Christchurch
Posted 2-Jun-2018 20:07


All or Nothing: New Zealand All Blacks arrives on Amazon Prime Video
Posted 2-Jun-2018 16:21


Innovation Grant, High Tech Awards and new USA office for Kiwi tech company SwipedOn
Posted 1-Jun-2018 20:54


Commerce Commission warns Apple for misleading consumers about their rights
Posted 30-May-2018 13:15


IBM leads Call for Code to use cloud, data, AI, blockchain for natural disaster relief
Posted 25-May-2018 14:12


New FUJIFILM X-T100 aims to do better job than smartphones
Posted 24-May-2018 20:17


Stuff takes 100% ownership of Stuff Fibre
Posted 24-May-2018 19:41



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.