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  Reply # 2000593 22-Apr-2018 12:45
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Not sure if he is an instrumentalist in any way, but composing music and lyrics is, to me, a BIG step ahead of 'spinning disks' even if they are put together in some sort of semblance to satisfy the listener .... commercial radio (pop and classical) has been doing just that for decades sealed


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  Reply # 2000642 22-Apr-2018 13:58
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     >deadmau5<

 

Not sure if he is an instrumentalist in any way, but composing music and lyrics is, to me, a BIG step ahead of 'spinning disks' even if they are put together in some sort of semblance to satisfy the listener .... commercial radio (pop and classical) has been doing just that for decades sealed

 

 

He makes original music with a huge array instruments, synthesizers, tone generators etc. Oh and has a whole bunch of Grammy's and other awards. He's done movie scores blah blah. Latest project has been a full orchestral remakes of his biggest tracks.

 

To go with these tracks he also develops software (with friends of course) for running his live shows to automate the lighting, effects etc.

 

Oldies can keep their heads up their asses about what a "DJ" is. But the fact is these days they are just as talented, if not more, as a 'normal' artist who plays boring instruments like guitars and pianos.

 

Edit: There is this cool things these days. The young'ins call it "Google". They tell me, if you don't know the answer to something, you can put a word in a box and it gives you all the information the world has on that subject so you can educate yourself on topics you don't understand.


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  Reply # 2000646 22-Apr-2018 14:26
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DJ's such as DeadMau, Avincii etc are musicians not disc jockeys, they use techniques, effects and original material to make unique or at least individualized music,tbh a good DJ can make old music relevant again :P

 

Youtube/Social media has not claim to the success of these guys or people in general, social media without desirable content attracts no interest, content is king, give the people what they want and booom instant internet fame

 

 




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  Reply # 2000675 22-Apr-2018 15:15
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Oldies can keep their heads up their asses about what a "DJ" is. But the fact is these days they are just as talented, if not more, as a 'normal' artist who plays boring instruments like guitars and pianos.

 

Edit: There is this cool things these days. The young'ins call it "Google". They tell me, if you don't know the answer to something, you can put a word in a box and it gives you all the information the world has on that subject so you can educate yourself on topics you don't understand.

 

 

Geez. Talk about the arrogance of youth.

 

 





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  Reply # 2000676 22-Apr-2018 15:18
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 a good DJ can make old music relevant again :P

 

 

Hey wait...

 

Good old time musicians can make some electronic music relevant again too, even 35 year old stuff:

 

 

I also kind of like this for the irony that the original Joy Division used analogue techniques (spray cans etc) to make industrial electronic sounding music.


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chevrolux:

 

Oldies can keep their heads up their asses about what a "DJ" is. But the fact is these days they are just as talented, if not more, as a 'normal' artist who plays boring instruments like guitars and pianos.

 

Edit: There is this cool things these days. The young'ins call it "Google". They tell me, if you don't know the answer to something, you can put a word in a box and it gives you all the information the world has on that subject so you can educate yourself on topics you don't understand.

 

 

Geez. Talk about the arrogance of youth.

 

 

Yup - that's actually quite funny though - like a parody of what you'd expect.

 

 


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As others have said bog standard DJ's (ie, club/EDM/hip-hop) combine multiple tracks smoothly to create different mixes and hopefully a smooth set 

 

They also read the crowd and take them on a journey over the duration of their set - esp good ones - changing  the mood / genre / age of the music and tempo etc - and this certainly takes skill to do it right

 

So a great DJ can really make for a great evening  

 

However many are sh%te ie. not particularly talented and do little more than beat mix one "bangin tune" after another - esp the mega DJ's - so well done to them I guess? :)

 

 


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  Reply # 2001226 23-Apr-2018 17:30
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Geez. Talk about the arrogance of youth.

 

 

...

 

Geektastic:

 

Or did you mean the moronic 'yoofs' wearing sportswear and hats on backwards and playing aural excrement they claim is music?

 

 

Yes, it's the youth that are arrogant.


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Yes, it's the youth that are arrogant.

 

 

They [Young People] have exalted notions, because they have not been humbled by life or learned its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things -- and that means having exalted notions. They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones: Their lives are regulated more by moral feeling than by reasoning -- all their mistakes are in the direction of doing things excessively and vehemently. They overdo everything -- they love too much, hate too much, and the same with everything else.

 

(written about 23 centuries ago)

 

The other sides to this of course are that every generation seems to think they're breaking new ground - doing something truly new, and many of old farts of my generation and beyond have selective amnesia about their own younger days - either falsely recalling that they were as perfect as they are now - or in truth were as boring then as they've remained.


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As others have said bog standard DJ's (ie, club/EDM/hip-hop) combine multiple tracks smoothly to create different mixes and hopefully a smooth set 

 

They also read the crowd and take them on a journey over the duration of their set - esp good ones - changing  the mood / genre / age of the music and tempo etc - and this certainly takes skill to do it right

 

So a great DJ can really make for a great evening  

 

However many are sh%te ie. not particularly talented and do little more than beat mix one "bangin tune" after another - esp the mega DJ's - so well done to them I guess? :)

 

 

 

 

Agreed Driller Mega DJ's sets can be the amazing just look at some of the biggest music festivals these days and they are mostly all DJ sets with other artists to back them up

 

It's not just the mainstream DJ's/ Producers that have made the scene what is it today, a lot of this started when clubs got popular. I look at this scene like you would the 1950's and the "Dances" everyone went to.. this is just the new side of the old ways.

 

 

 

And just remember our now PM was once on a feature at LANEWAY 2014

 

https://thespinoff.co.nz/music/02-08-2017/the-complete-ish-history-of-jacinda-arderns-dj-career/


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  Reply # 2001471 24-Apr-2018 11:10
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I think I missed out on a couple of musical generations. I don't follow contemporary pop music and certainly not hip-hop and I really don't understand what  DJs do that makes people want to pay money to see them. The news about Avicii was what put it into my mind and made me start wondering. 

 

 

I'm a grumpy old man so am coloured in my perspective, but I think it's a cult of personalty. Such-and-such is cool and all the cool people go to his shows so he's super popular. Kind of empty - a bit like all the other celeb culture crap around people who are famous mainly for being famous (and rich) such as the Kardashians. Ick.

 

 

 

 


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Rikkitic:

 

I think I missed out on a couple of musical generations. I don't follow contemporary pop music and certainly not hip-hop and I really don't understand what  DJs do that makes people want to pay money to see them. The news about Avicii was what put it into my mind and made me start wondering. 

 

 

I'm a grumpy old man so am coloured in my perspective, but I think it's a cult of personalty. Such-and-such is cool and all the cool people go to his shows so he's super popular. Kind of empty - a bit like all the other celeb culture crap around people who are famous mainly for being famous (and rich) such as the Kardashians. Ick.

 


So the Beatles, Kiss, AC/DC, Meatloaf, The Rolling Stones, Led Zep the list could go on are not the same as Avicii's following?

 

So if I asked @tdgeek (Sorry Tony hahaha) if back in his day these bands above were "cult of personalities" he would agree or disagree


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Rikkitic:

 

I think I missed out on a couple of musical generations. I don't follow contemporary pop music and certainly not hip-hop and I really don't understand what  DJs do that makes people want to pay money to see them. The news about Avicii was what put it into my mind and made me start wondering. 

 

 

I'm a grumpy old man so am coloured in my perspective, but I think it's a cult of personalty. Such-and-such is cool and all the cool people go to his shows so he's super popular. Kind of empty - a bit like all the other celeb culture crap around people who are famous mainly for being famous (and rich) such as the Kardashians. Ick.

 


So the Beatles, Kiss, AC/DC, Meatloaf, The Rolling Stones, Led Zep the list could go on are not the same as Avicii's following?

 

So if I asked @tdgeek (Sorry Tony hahaha) if back in his day these bands above were "cult of personalities" he would agree or disagree

 

 

LOL I don't do heavy metal, and I hate Meatloaf with a vengeance! For those that were into those, yes they were cult like. I prefer Tom Petty, Psychelic Furs, Mental As Anything to name a few....


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LOL I don't do heavy metal, and I hate Meatloaf with a vengeance! For those that were into those, yes they were cult like. I prefer Tom Petty, Psychelic Furs, Mental As Anything to name a few....

 

 

Proves my point thanks mate :) But yes Tom Petty, Psychelic Furs were also another genre that had cult like followings just like Avicii :)


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