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  Reply # 2008241 4-May-2018 22:14
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  Reply # 2008975 7-May-2018 07:40
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I shop online and offshore out of frustration with nz based retailers. It is in my lifetime I have seen things change for the worse. I'm in my thirties.  I want to shop locally but time and time again I get let down.

 

 

 

Brick and mortar retailers will always have something the internet will never have. The ability to provide a brilliant pleasurable, personable and reliable shopping experience.

 

 

 

The 'level playing field' buzzword is a load of absolute bollocks it's always been a level playing field. Most NZ retailers simply can't be arsed or don't know how to use this to their advantage.

 

 

 

Also, the retail bosses need to nurture their young employees. One of the biggest gripes I hear is "...18 year old kid didn't know anything and didn't care". Of course they don't they're 18!

 

 

 

Find a way for them to find their crap job somewhat enjoyable. or at least take some sort of pride in some part of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm generalizing obviously and when I do get surprised by good service I make sure they know and also don't usually tip but if I do it's in cash to the person not the eftpos machine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rant over.


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  Reply # 2008977 7-May-2018 07:51
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Nudibranch:

 

I shop online and offshore out of frustration with nz based retailers. It is in my lifetime I have seen things change for the worse. I'm in my thirties.  I want to shop locally but time and time again I get let down.

 

 

 

Brick and mortar retailers will always have something the internet will never have. The ability to provide a brilliant pleasurable, personable and reliable shopping experience.

 

 

 

The 'level playing field' buzzword is a load of absolute bollocks it's always been a level playing field. Most NZ retailers simply can't be arsed or don't know how to use this to their advantage.

 

 

 

Also, the retail bosses need to nurture their young employees. One of the biggest gripes I hear is "...18 year old kid didn't know anything and didn't care". Of course they don't they're 18!

 

 

 

Find a way for them to find their crap job somewhat enjoyable. or at least take some sort of pride in some part of it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm generalizing obviously and when I do get surprised by good service I make sure they know and also don't usually tip but if I do it's in cash to the person not the eftpos machine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rant over.

 

 

I don't find a general undercurrent of poor service at brick and mortar stores. It can and does happen, same with anything in life.

 

I dont get this comment "The 'level playing field' buzzword is a load of absolute bollocks it's always been a level playing field. ."

 

Read the thread title, that explains it.

 

 


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  Reply # 2009008 7-May-2018 09:34
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Have removed unnecessary terminology from a post (thanks google). 

 

There's no need for it, and it's not in keeping with our site or the FUG. This is a family show, folks.

 

As you were...





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  Reply # 2009454 7-May-2018 19:01
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Hopefully someone can confirm.

I got a new iPhone coming in the mail from Aussie, it is a gift from direct family.
Will I get pinged?

Seems to be sitting at customs with no reason.

Cheers





 


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  Reply # 2009460 7-May-2018 19:05
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Coil:

 

Hopefully someone can confirm.

I got a new iPhone coming in the mail from Aussie, it is a gift from direct family.
Will I get pinged?

Seems to be sitting at customs with no reason.

Cheers

 

 

 

This page may help https://easyfreight.co.nz/blog/duty-gst-on-imported-gifts/

 

This page too. https://www.customs.govt.nz/personal/duty-and-gst/gifts-inheritance-and-taonga/ If it is a gift, it looks like it has to be worth under $110, but it doesn't specifically say what happens if it is worth over $110 . Would be interested to know if you do have to pay gst and duty on it, as I presume the sender did declare the value on the package.


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mattwnz:

 

Coil:

 

Hopefully someone can confirm.

I got a new iPhone coming in the mail from Aussie, it is a gift from direct family.
Will I get pinged?

Seems to be sitting at customs with no reason.

Cheers

 

 

 

This page may help https://easyfreight.co.nz/blog/duty-gst-on-imported-gifts/

 

This page too. https://www.customs.govt.nz/personal/duty-and-gst/gifts-inheritance-and-taonga/ If it is a gift, it looks like it has to be worth under $110, but it doesn't specifically say what happens if it is worth over $110 . Would be interested to know if you do have to pay gst and duty on it, as I presume the sender did declare the value on the package.

 



Yeah we covered that in a thread just yesterday haha, It has been invoiced and I can't afford the GST on the $1000AUD value mother put on it.
Works out around 200-240 NZD including duties. Absolute JOKE. I pray the lithium Ion battery in the phone spontaneously combusts in the customs holding center. 





 


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  Reply # 2010450 9-May-2018 09:24
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Coil: It has been invoiced and I can't afford the GST on the $1000AUD value mother put on it.
Works out around 200-240 NZD including duties. Absolute JOKE. I pray the lithium Ion battery in the phone spontaneously combusts in the customs holding center. 

 

What happens of you don't pay, do they return to sender?


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  Reply # 2016052 14-May-2018 21:23
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I heard today on National Radio that Alibaba are not going to collect GST as they're not the actual seller. So it will be interesting to see if this means they'll simply stop sending items to NZ.


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  Reply # 2016081 14-May-2018 22:29
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i have an accountant/auditor friend - he says it is up to the seller to comply, it is not enforcable. so it may be limited to a select few. including the law's namesake.


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  Reply # 2016107 15-May-2018 06:47
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mudguard:

 

I heard today on National Radio that Alibaba are not going to collect GST as they're not the actual seller. So it will be interesting to see if this means they'll simply stop sending items to NZ.

 

 

Were they referring to Alibaba specifically, or AliExpress as well? The legislation is meant to cover AliExpress, eBay and Amazon Marketplace (although I hope they refuse to comply, because the idea of foreign businesses being forced to pay tax in another country is absurd). Alibaba serves a completely different purpose, and most of the transactions would exceed $400.


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  Reply # 2016266 15-May-2018 12:47
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Found this interesting read. To do with EU VAT, and expecting overseas companies to collect and pay.

That said, we’re not citizens of the EU and the majority of us are set up as sole proprietorships (operating and paying income taxes under our social security numbers). Unless the U.S. government backed the EU’s VAT laws and spent valuable man hours enforcing them (um, not likely), a foreign government isn’t going to have much luck imposing a tax on our hundreds of thousands of small, online businesses.

From http://www.marketyourcreativity.com/2014/12/im-american-do-i-have-to-pay-vat-to-the-eu/

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rugrat: Found this interesting read. To do with EU VAT, and expecting overseas companies to collect and pay.

That said, we’re not citizens of the EU and the majority of us are set up as sole proprietorships (operating and paying income taxes under our social security numbers). Unless the U.S. government backed the EU’s VAT laws and spent valuable man hours enforcing them (um, not likely), a foreign government isn’t going to have much luck imposing a tax on our hundreds of thousands of small, online businesses.

 

Its a misunderstanding that this is a tax on non EU companies or citizens.

 

The VAT is a tax that is paid by the EU citizen. The change is that if you run a company selling to EU citizens for more than 35,000 EURO a year, you have to collect that VAT and hand it over to EU.

 

That is not a tax of out of EU companies or citizens.

 

It might be an inconvenience and extra work, but its not a single cent of taxes being paid by the non EU company.





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  Reply # 2055229 12-Jul-2018 17:47
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Looks like the ATO is going to be busy in Australia. 

 

 

 

Story here


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  Reply # 2055241 12-Jul-2018 18:11
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rugrat:

 

Looks like the ATO is going to be busy in Australia. Even an Amazon one in there that shipped without GST.

 

Story here

 

 

Strict rules of sovereignty should be maintained. I'd like to think most foreign courts would tell the ATO where to go if they tried to persecute a legal entity operating outside of Australia, but I am reminded of this example...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE&t=280

 

 

 

New Zealand should take the lead here and specifically legislate against foreign nations attempting to impose obligations on us. That's not what will happen however. Eventually there will be reciprocal agreements, and we'll all be forced to pay taxes everywhere. The practical aspect of such things may come later, but until then, it'll be a horrible burden on businesses. It's certainly caused me to re-evaluate my plans.


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