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  #2013407 10-May-2018 13:55
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No slogan at all, I'd personally prefer a lot less tourists. We're losing a lot of what we have/had at a great rate of knots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although I don't think it is just tourists that are the problem. I think the number of people we are letting in is also a major problem. Not only has it made houses too expensive for those kiwis already living here, but it has meant urban sprawl. I get that some companies are calling out for workers, especially low paid ones. But that sort of thing is cyclical. When the recession hits, we are likely go to end up with a heap of people unemployed, so IMO it is false economy to be letting in so many people. All it is doing is making some people a heck of a lot of money, largely  from housing. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah...nah.

 

 

 

According to Stats NZ

 

 

 

"Consequently, its (NZ's) population density is relatively low, at 15 people per square kilometre – less than half the OECD average and higher than only Australia, Iceland, Canada and Norway."






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  #2013416 10-May-2018 14:03
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https://www.pri.org/stories/2016-12-29/delightfully-bad-tourism-slogans-around-world

 

 

Not all slogans are totally terrible, says Calder. He admits that "having a good slogan can do wonders for a place."

 

"'New Zealand, 100% Pure' — that has been doing very well indeed," he says. And though it's not a country, Calder is awfully fond of Florida's branding. "'Florida, the Sunshine State' — that says it all," he adds. 

 


 
 
 
 


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I guess 'the hurricane state' or 'oversize anaconda state' or 'giant alligator in your swimming pool state' or 'election-throwing state' don't quite have the same ring, to say nothing of 'baptist fundamentalist racist anti-muslim state'.

 

 





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Geektastic:

 

mattwnz:

 

clevedon:

 

No slogan at all, I'd personally prefer a lot less tourists. We're losing a lot of what we have/had at a great rate of knots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although I don't think it is just tourists that are the problem. I think the number of people we are letting in is also a major problem. Not only has it made houses too expensive for those kiwis already living here, but it has meant urban sprawl. I get that some companies are calling out for workers, especially low paid ones. But that sort of thing is cyclical. When the recession hits, we are likely go to end up with a heap of people unemployed, so IMO it is false economy to be letting in so many people. All it is doing is making some people a heck of a lot of money, largely  from housing. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah...nah.

 

 

 

According to Stats NZ

 

 

 

"Consequently, its (NZ's) population density is relatively low, at 15 people per square kilometre – less than half the OECD average and higher than only Australia, Iceland, Canada and Norway."

 

 

 

 

More people, more problems.


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  #2013426 10-May-2018 14:22
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clevedon:

 

 

 

More people, more problems.

 

 

 

 

We are still under populated.





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New Zealand: It's 100% not Australia (And we don't spend all of our time comparing ourselves to Australia, nor do we report on every little thing that happens in Australia, that's Fiji that does that, yea Fiji.)

 

Or the Alternative:

 

New Zealand: 1% of Australians have heard of us.


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  #2013430 10-May-2018 14:35
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To somewhat paraphrase/plagiarize Heath Franklin, "New Zealand, if you're lucky we'll put some pants on"

 

 

 

 





 
 
 
 


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  #2013432 10-May-2018 14:40
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MikeB4:

 

clevedon:

 

More people, more problems.

 

 

We are still under populated.

 

 

The country might be able to "sustain a higher population" or it could be argued that there may be economic benefit from having a higher population, but to say that NZ is "under populated" is merely an opinion.


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Fred99:

 

MikeB4:

 

clevedon:

 

More people, more problems.

 

 

We are still under populated.

 

 

The country might be able to "sustain a higher population" or it could be argued that there may be economic benefit from having a higher population, but to say that NZ is "under populated" is merely an opinion.

 

 

 

 

The major problem NZ has, is that we have allowed the population to increase so much, but we haven't invested in infrastructure and services for those people. So we need more hospitals, more expensive roads and tunnels/bridges were we have greater urban intensification, as well as more public transport. We are an ambulance at the bottom of the cliff society, so nothing gets done until there is a problem, rather than actually planning for the population growth. 

 

 

 

 


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  #2013477 10-May-2018 15:56
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100% Pure-ish


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  #2013495 10-May-2018 16:36
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"NZ if you order something while you're here, don't expect it to actually be delivered!"


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  #2013498 10-May-2018 16:42
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100% Pure is now a couple of decades old, and I don't think it is very relevant these days, especially due to the state of our rivers and streams, and the state of overcrowding, where we lack enough housing. Also the eyesores we see built in natural environment, and some developments have encroached into some of these scenic views. We are also  still allowing prime productive land to be taken out of production, for the use with HAIL activities.  I believe the slogan is mainly supposed to refer to our natural environment, and scenery. Pure mean unadulterated, and 100% Pure emphasizes that, which isn't the case these days IMO. 

 

I thought at one stage they were using 'Middle Earth' as a slogan.  But that is probably dated these days. Many towns have slogans which may be appropriate, and have spent thousands coming up with them, so a decent slogan may already exist.


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MikeB4:

 

clevedon:

 

More people, more problems.

 

 

We are still under populated.

 

 

 

 

Pretty much this IMO.   I'd be interested in some stats covering how much of our natural beauty, etc has been lost due to tourists, immigration and population growth combined vs the farming industry.... 





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sidefx:

 

MikeB4:

 

clevedon:

 

More people, more problems.

 

 

We are still under populated.

 

 

 

 

Pretty much this IMO.   I'd be interested in some stats covering how much of our natural beauty, etc has been lost due to tourists, immigration and population growth combined vs the farming industry.... 

 

 

To some people - including a few tourists I expect - nothing epitomises natural beauty more than a paddock full of cows grazing.

 

Except perhaps sheep - a good % of the tourist attractions here seem to be devoted to sheep worship.


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sidefx:

 

 

 

 I'd be interested in some stats covering how much of our natural beauty, etc has been lost due to tourists, immigration and population growth combined vs the farming industry.... 

 

 

 

 

Depends on the definition, as some of that beauty could be defined as farmland, which much was once covered by bush before man landed in NZ. Not sure if we are doing much to restore that bush either.

 

A lot of productive land is taken out of the NZ economy for new subdivisions etc.


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