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  # 2058849 19-Jul-2018 13:50
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tdgeek:

 

Its ok to suggest he has sex with his sub?

 

My reasoning is clear, I dont default to the standard bias. I look at it from an objective view, which is clearly not representative if there is a target. Both were wrong. One started it, one responded, both wrong. But its just a beatup for the usual standard reasons these days. If we all agree it is all speculation, I fail to see how the bias is so one sided. The default preference is to side with one guy and beat up the other, without hard facts. In any case, this was already decided before either of them said anything. The default reaction.

 

 

Which is worse in your eyes? 

 

The guy who was actually involved in the rescue of the kids, telling the guy with good intentions who was clearly being a pest, to take his sub and shove it as it wasn't suited to purpose, or the guy who maybe had good intentions calling said guy, a person who sexually interferes with children? 

 

I am sorry, but there is no defense for calling someone a pedophile, none. He automatically loses on that alone. I am actually pretty disappointed to see you try and defend it.

 

You aren't taking an objective view, you are taking the devils advocate position, which isn't in my opinion, even slightly appropriate. 

 

 


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  # 2058851 19-Jul-2018 13:52
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Which is why I asked what happens if it is reversed? Same result. Two opposing scenarios, same result.

 

 

Explain to me how it would work if it were reversed? The guy who called the guy a pedophile, who isn't a pedophile, is automatically, and completely wrong. It's disgraceful.

 

 


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  # 2058854 19-Jul-2018 13:57
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I am honestly having a hard time understanding why this discussion is even happening. 

 

 





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  # 2058856 19-Jul-2018 14:00
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Yup, sadly, I dont think it's going anywhere. I'm done with this line of the discussion. The thread could likely be closed now actually, the rescue is done, the heroes saved the kids! Amazing outcome.

 

 


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tdgeek:

 

Its ok to suggest he has sex with his sub?

 

My reasoning is clear, I dont default to the standard bias. I look at it from an objective view, which is clearly not representative if there is a target. Both were wrong. One started it, one responded, both wrong. But its just a beatup for the usual standard reasons these days. If we all agree it is all speculation, I fail to see how the bias is so one sided. The default preference is to side with one guy and beat up the other, without hard facts. In any case, this was already decided before either of them said anything. The default reaction.

 

 

Which is worse in your eyes? 

 

The guy who was actually involved in the rescue of the kids, telling the guy with good intentions who was clearly being a pest, to take his sub and shove it as it wasn't suited to purpose, or the guy who maybe had good intentions calling said guy, a person who sexually interferes with children? 

 

I am sorry, but there is no defense for calling someone a pedophile, none. He automatically loses on that alone. I am actually pretty disappointed to see you try and defend it.

 

You aren't taking an objective view, you are taking the devils advocate position, which isn't in my opinion, even slightly appropriate. 

 

 

 

 

Clearly being a pest is an assumption. Not a fact.

 

Ive already said what Musk said was worse. What the caver said was also bad, but not as bad, so do you feel the magnitude is relevant? There is clearly a relevance to that, but not to the point of dismissing the caber as locker room talk. They each stated acts that are illegal and shocking. Does it matter who decided to rattle the cages first? Or is that ok, and a response is not? Truth be known both outbursts were just locker room talk to aggravate the other, although thats no excuse. But the bottom line is the side was already decided before anything was said, thats the way it goes these days. If you don't agree, then I guess your wrong. Musk is due for more backlash based on his notoriety, but IMHO that should not be the automatic default to a situation like this 

 

Dont talk rubbish, I am not defending Musk or his comment, I find that extremely offensive. I am commenting on the standard, default bias that has already been decided. 

 

I am objective. I haven't default sided with anyone, I have criticised them both, but to others, its only one way traffic

 

 


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tdgeek:

 

Which is why I asked what happens if it is reversed? Same result. Two opposing scenarios, same result.

 

 

Explain to me how it would work if it were reversed? The guy who called the guy a pedophile, who isn't a pedophile, is automatically, and completely wrong. It's disgraceful.

 

 

 

 

Off course its wrong and disgraceful. If Musk bashed Unsworth with the do it to your air tank and Unsworth came back with the pedo comment, it will come back as anti Musk. As per the reply to when I asked that


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