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Topic # 23865 10-Jul-2008 13:35
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auckland police want council to close bars,clubs at 3am:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10520856

this sucks. i hope it doesn't happen. all it will do is shift the problem into residential neighbourhoods instead of a central place where police can patrol. people will just have a party at someone's house after 3am and drink alcohol and get drunk and police will have to go all over auckland. they should keep the 24hour bars and clubs.

i don't care if other cities in new zealand close at this time. i'm sure if you asked the young people if they want bars and clubs to be open 24/7 they'd say yes.

and that police officer said "nothing good happens after 3am". well i proved him wrong already. i went out last week at 1am and was drinking with friends at a bar until 4am and we got into no trouble. we all got taxis home afterwards. so that police officer just got proven wrong. the only way he could make that statement was if he interviewed every single person in auckland and asked them if they thought nothing good happens after 3am, but he hasn't.

and you can't say the majority of aucklanders commit crime after 3am. it's a minority. why should good people be punished by having to leave at 3am when only a minority of people cause trouble.

the police also want a lockout policy that would stop people entering licensed venues after 1am. i don't want this.

if the auckland city council does this i am sure the mayor and council will lose the next election. the police say they want these laws to make their job easier. if police can't do their job they should quit. i would like my job to be easier because when i drive home from work there is traffic jams, so i'd like a police escort to clear traffic and take me home everyday.

well i'm going to email auckland mayor john banks and tell him that i hope the council keeps the 24 hour bars and clubs and not make them close at 3am and not make them have a lockout policy that would stop people entering licensed venues after 1am.

the mayor's contact details can be found here:

http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/council/members/representatives/default.asp

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Reply # 146102 10-Jul-2008 13:41
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Yes great idea

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  Reply # 146111 10-Jul-2008 14:01
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Someone correct me if im wrong..

In Dunedin i believe that they stop letting people into pubs/clubs after 4am on a Friday & Saturday night.
If you are already inside you can say till closing.

Seems to be a great idea..
and has worked well this year.. from what i have seen.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 146129 10-Jul-2008 14:47
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This isn't really a problem with the police or with the council.

The real problem here is that some bar owners don't give a rats arse about host responsibility, all they want to do is get as much money as they can from punters and then kick them out when they start to become a problem.

It was only about 3 years ago I attended a crash in Dunedin. The driver of the car was drunk, he had been at one of the local student bars. The deal of the night was 6 doubles for $10. He had purchased $30 worth.

Things have improved slightly, the liquor licencing authority tend to come down much harder on bars that do these types of promotions now but there are still plenty of places that don't care as long as the problems don't happen in their own premises.

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  Reply # 146177 10-Jul-2008 16:05
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marmel: This isn't really a problem with the police or with the council.

The real problem here is that some bar owners don't give a rats arse about host responsibility, all they want to do is get as much money as they can from punters and then kick them out when they start to become a problem.

It was only about 3 years ago I attended a crash in Dunedin. The driver of the car was drunk, he had been at one of the local student bars. The deal of the night was 6 doubles for $10. He had purchased $30 worth.

Things have improved slightly, the liquor licencing authority tend to come down much harder on bars that do these types of promotions now but there are still plenty of places that don't care as long as the problems don't happen in their own premises.


I dont really have a problem with cheap drinks in a bar..

I do have a problem with people drink driving !

Someone could still buy a bottle of $15 vodka and get smashed at home and go for a joy ride.

So its more about drink driving..

The Penalties should be so bad that people stop doing it !!

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  Reply # 146214 10-Jul-2008 16:45
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AmooMan:
marmel: This isn't really a problem with the police or with the council.

The real problem here is that some bar owners don't give a rats arse about host responsibility, all they want to do is get as much money as they can from punters and then kick them out when they start to become a problem.

It was only about 3 years ago I attended a crash in Dunedin. The driver of the car was drunk, he had been at one of the local student bars. The deal of the night was 6 doubles for $10. He had purchased $30 worth.

Things have improved slightly, the liquor licencing authority tend to come down much harder on bars that do these types of promotions now but there are still plenty of places that don't care as long as the problems don't happen in their own premises.


I dont really have a problem with cheap drinks in a bar..

I do have a problem with people drink driving !

Someone could still buy a bottle of $15 vodka and get smashed at home and go for a joy ride.

So its more about drink driving..

The Penalties should be so bad that people stop doing it !!


This type of policy is attempting to reduce violence in cities involving heavily intoxicated patrons leaving bars and becoming victims or offenders, it doesn't have much to do with drink driving, thats another problem entirely.

This has been an increasing problem all over the country especially in areas like Queenstown, Christchurch, Auckland etc. There is a direct link between opening hours, levels of intoxication and the number of violent offences occuring.

As I said above unfortunately some bar owners are there to get as much money as they can and do not care what happens once people leave the front door, they believe it is the responsibility of the police to mop up after them. They are slowly learning that this is not the case........

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