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  Reply # 2062398 25-Jul-2018 16:20
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Over a year, it was just over 2 physically being removed per month. So a storeroom of computer stuff all over the place, even if tidy, not hard to not notice that. But he must have been doing the stocktakes, and adding the stolen ones in so they wont show up on the monthly P+L report

 



That doesn't add up either. If he was still counting them as being present, the number of unsold secondhand laptops mounting up would be a red flag. Maybe they were on the books at such a low value that the owner didn't care.


I’d expect the unsold laptops are the ones in the storeroom. On those three shelves, about 20 of them. If it’s magically 18 who would know if they didn’t run an inventory system? I see the that with small businesses . I have a financial background, I would know the stock on hand at any tine. The physical stocktake I would reconcile but who would do that in a small business? Not too many

 

/me shrugs. As someone who works almost exclusively with small businesses, most I know would.

 

When I worked for another IT company MANY years ago now, we did a stock take and they had an inventory report. Discrepancies were picked up. I guess it's possible someone could fudge the stock take for a month or two, but my boss would often cross reference with sales on big items especially.

 

 


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  Reply # 2062402 25-Jul-2018 16:24
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The fact 26 notebooks are unaccounted for and he won't admit to taking them, for me would indicate he isn't remorseful nor intends to take responsbility for his actions. In this case, I say give him towards the upper end of punishments for the crimes he actually got caught commiting and see if a spell in prison helps.

 

 


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  Reply # 2062459 25-Jul-2018 17:15
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mudguard:

NB Googling bike data is awkward. Seem the 100-0 brake distance is no longer popular. Plus nearly all cars have ABS which is brilliant, and only a handful of bikes do, though I think a lot BMW bikes seem to come with it. 



What were your search terms? I've found a lot of 60mph - 0 results. Seems bikes tend to limit just over 1G 115ft or so before rear wheel lifts off ground. Cars limit is tyres.

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  Reply # 2062721 26-Jul-2018 01:31
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tdgeek:
Bung:
tdgeek:

 

Over a year, it was just over 2 physically being removed per month. So a storeroom of computer stuff all over the place, even if tidy, not hard to not notice that. But he must have been doing the stocktakes, and adding the stolen ones in so they wont show up on the monthly P+L report

 



That doesn't add up either. If he was still counting them as being present, the number of unsold secondhand laptops mounting up would be a red flag. Maybe they were on the books at such a low value that the owner didn't care.


I’d expect the unsold laptops are the ones in the storeroom. On those three shelves, about 20 of them. If it’s magically 18 who would know if they didn’t run an inventory system? I see the that with small businesses . I have a financial background, I would know the stock on hand at any tine. The physical stocktake I would reconcile but who would do that in a small business? Not too many

 

/me shrugs. As someone who works almost exclusively with small businesses, most I know would.

 

When I worked for another IT company MANY years ago now, we did a stock take and they had an inventory report. Discrepancies were picked up. I guess it's possible someone could fudge the stock take for a month or two, but my boss would often cross reference with sales on big items especially.

 

 

 

 

A couple of years back, when we sold mainly to residential, we had a store room in our office with upwards of 30-40 laptops. It wasn't until last year when we finally sold all of our old stock that we noticed 5 of them were missing. We had horrific stock control and next to no security so it is possible.








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  Reply # 2062730 26-Jul-2018 06:36
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tdgeek:
Bung:
tdgeek:

 

Over a year, it was just over 2 physically being removed per month. So a storeroom of computer stuff all over the place, even if tidy, not hard to not notice that. But he must have been doing the stocktakes, and adding the stolen ones in so they wont show up on the monthly P+L report

 



That doesn't add up either. If he was still counting them as being present, the number of unsold secondhand laptops mounting up would be a red flag. Maybe they were on the books at such a low value that the owner didn't care.


I’d expect the unsold laptops are the ones in the storeroom. On those three shelves, about 20 of them. If it’s magically 18 who would know if they didn’t run an inventory system? I see the that with small businesses . I have a financial background, I would know the stock on hand at any tine. The physical stocktake I would reconcile but who would do that in a small business? Not too many

 

/me shrugs. As someone who works almost exclusively with small businesses, most I know would.

 

When I worked for another IT company MANY years ago now, we did a stock take and they had an inventory report. Discrepancies were picked up. I guess it's possible someone could fudge the stock take for a month or two, but my boss would often cross reference with sales on big items especially.

 

 

 

 

I get that, but the smaller the business the lower the management of stock. This shop was very small as stated earlier. Almost a one man business. As I mentioned earlier it appears the owner didnt do the stocktakes, as when he did one the discrepancy was found. Id say the boy did them and the owner valued the count. 


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  Reply # 2063734 27-Jul-2018 16:15
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A discharge without conviction would be a dis-service to the community. The point of a conviction record is to warn the public and to discourage further offending.

 

I'm aware of several employees who stole tens of thousands in cash and just about bought down small businesses. When rechecking their background they had a track record of the same theft but their former employers had never pursued it through the courts, so new employers were setup to be victims and the theft effectively rewarded.


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