Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
226 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 65

Lifetime subscriber

  # 2067991 4-Aug-2018 15:28
2 people support this post
Send private message

If you read the article fully you will see that you can blame the current government for the extended time it takes to answer all of the questions. They have added a lot of questions to what used to be in the surveys.

3300 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1083

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2067993 4-Aug-2018 15:31
Send private message

alasta: The only question in that study that I have refused to answer is one about 'sexual orientation', partly because it seems excessively personal, and partly because I don't really understand all that new age gobbledygook. 

 

There's 26 letters in our alphabet, just pick one of them!

 

This seems like another divisive issue, but I can see why people get up in arms with the claims of what appears to be gross intrusion on top of deliberate misrepresentations over how long the process takes.


 
 
 
 


11 posts

Geek
+1 received by user: 4


# 2068214 5-Aug-2018 11:25
One person supports this post
Send private message

Bung:
Geektastic:
gzt:
Geektastic: Why can't they move it to an online format so people can complete it when it suits?

Because they would be never? : )


It works for the Census.


Worked but not well. The 2018 Census had lowest participation rate of last 5 Censuses. Regarded as a shambles

 

 

 

They use an online format for the compulsory Agricultural production survey that roughly 50% of all agricultural businesses must participate in every year - it gets quite in depth and a pain to fill out sometimes - From experience they do chase you up and get grumpy if you haven't filled it out by the appropriate time embarassed. 50% of an industry seems a little extreme particularly for an annual survey 


134 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 38


  # 2068217 5-Aug-2018 11:45
One person supports this post
Send private message

JimmyH:

 

The length of the survey and the requirement to find receipts going back 12 months seems a bit over the top. Personally, I couldn't comply with that even if I wanted to - unless it's a really major purchase I don't keep those receipts. Plus, for a lot of small purchases, I just pay bu eftpos or cash, and don't even bother with reciepts. Fining me still wouldn't enable me to magic paperwork I don't have out of the ether.

 

 

I went through one of these, and I don't keep or ask for any receipts for anything I buy personally (pretty much all reputable stores keep a copy electronically for warranty purposes) I just told them them this and they were fine. I suspect they people told the stats person yes I do have the receipts but will need to find them to which the stats person would have said fine yes you do that. 


Fat bottom Trump
9949 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4797

Subscriber

  # 2068230 5-Aug-2018 13:15
2 people support this post
Send private message

Never volunteer too much information.

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


12756 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4251

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2068241 5-Aug-2018 13:30
2 people support this post
Send private message

Rikkitic:

Never volunteer too much information.


 



As we learned in boarding school, and as friends learned in the Army:

"Never volunteer."





1657 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 256


  # 2068450 6-Aug-2018 08:55
Send private message

tdgeek:

 

Three hours is too long, and there should be no need for receipts. If you are asked a question and you are honest, that answer should suffice. It also needs to be publicised. Ive never heard of this. It should be common knowledge as is the reason why. 

 

 

I agree that 3 hours is too long. But if Stats NZ say that the average time to complete the survey is 40 minutes then that's probably true, after all you'd expect them to be able to accurately calculate something like this! Maybe this particular couple managed to drag things out?

 

My understanding is that in the past they only picked 3,500 households for the survey but that this year they've upped it to 20,000. I guess that's why not many people knew about it and it's going to become a lot more widely known as more people have to complete it.


5376 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2201


  # 2068464 6-Aug-2018 09:54
2 people support this post
Send private message

k1wi:

 

TL;DR - Please please please do the surveys, they are incredibly valuable and Statistics New Zealand really does value the time and effort it takes respondents to complete them.

 

 

IMO they don't value people's time because they don't pay a cent for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 





Mike

20067 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6112

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2068469 6-Aug-2018 09:58
Send private message

Rikkitic:

 

You can choose whether to apply for a mortgage or a particular job. You can't choose this.

 

 

 

 

Of course you can? You can simply pack your bags and head to a country that doesn't have these requirements.

 

 

 

 


Fat bottom Trump
9949 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4797

Subscriber

  # 2068505 6-Aug-2018 10:40
Send private message

Are you trying to get rid of me?

 

 





I reject your reality and substitute my own. - Adam Savage
 


20067 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6112

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2068511 6-Aug-2018 10:51
3 people support this post
Send private message

Rikkitic:

 

Are you trying to get rid of me?

 

 

 

 

No, I am saying people have a choice. It's compulsory if you live here and meet the critera, to fill in these questionaires if selected. It's no different from obeying road rules, or many other things that are a requirement of being a member of a country.

 

Is it inconvenient? Probably. Is it intrusive, maybe to some (me included), will I do it without "poisoning the well" or any of the other things that have been mentioned, yes, because it's my duty. Not every chore I need to do, is something I like.

 

Most people have spent more time participating in this thread complaining about it, than it would take to complete it.

 

 


5376 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2201


  # 2068515 6-Aug-2018 11:05
One person supports this post
Send private message

networkn:

 

Most people have spent more time participating in this thread complaining about it, than it would take to complete it.

 

 

Reportedly takes hours ...





Mike

20067 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6112

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 2068517 6-Aug-2018 11:06
Send private message

MikeAqua:

 

networkn:

 

Most people have spent more time participating in this thread complaining about it, than it would take to complete it.

 

 

Reportedly takes hours ...

 

 

Stats NZ says 40 minutes, even if you double it...

 

 


5376 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2201


  # 2068526 6-Aug-2018 11:19
Send private message

networkn:

 

Stats NZ says 40 minutes, even if you double it...

 

 

Accounts o the iternet suggest much longer time were experience - but they may be extreme cases

 

40 minutes is ~50% of my free time on a weekday evening.

 

And after work and a work-out, my brain is mush so ....





Mike

15928 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 3137

Trusted

  # 2068528 6-Aug-2018 11:20
Send private message

networkn:

 

 

 

Most people have spent more time participating in this thread complaining about it, than it would take to complete it.

 

 

 

 

I have read that a few times here over the years, when a whinefest overcomes the actual exercise discussed.  Humans are a quirky lot


1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Video game market in New Zealand passes half billion dollar mark
Posted 24-May-2019 16:15


WLG-X festival to celebrate creativity and innovation
Posted 22-May-2019 17:53


HPE to acquire supercomputing leader Cray
Posted 20-May-2019 11:07


Techweek starting around NZ today
Posted 20-May-2019 09:52


Porirua City Council first to adopt new council software solution Datascape
Posted 15-May-2019 12:00


New survey provides insight into schools' technology challenges and plans
Posted 15-May-2019 09:30


Apple Music now available on Alexa devices in Australia and New Zealand
Posted 15-May-2019 09:11


Make a stand against cyberbullying this Pink Shirt Day
Posted 14-May-2019 20:23


Samsung first TV manufacturer to launch the Apple TV App and Airplay 2
Posted 14-May-2019 20:11


Vodafone New Zealand sold
Posted 14-May-2019 07:25


Kordia boosts cloud performance with locally-hosted Microsoft Azure ExpressRoute
Posted 8-May-2019 10:25


Microsoft Azure ExpressRoute in New Zealand opens up faster, more secure internet for Kiwi businesses
Posted 8-May-2019 09:39


Vocus Communications to deliver Microsoft Azure Cloud Solutions through Azure ExpressRoute
Posted 8-May-2019 09:25


Independent NZ feature film #statusPending to premiere during WLG-X
Posted 6-May-2019 22:13


The ultimate dog photoshoot with Nokia 9 PureView #ForgottenDogsofInstagram
Posted 6-May-2019 09:41



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.