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  # 2189407 1-Mar-2019 14:05
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jonathan18:

 

Yep, generally agree that you're on a hiding for nothing trying to build an impenetrable wall around one's kids.

 

First, whatever or however you as parents manage their access to content etc, it's virtually impossible trying the same degree of control outside of the home (school, friends etc);

 

Second, I'm not sure how well that approach works in building a child's ability to self-manage and respond appropriately. At least educating your kids in relation to dodgy content etc in your own space can help provide them with the tools to better respond when they do encounter it outside of the home. (Or they'll be less likely to go looking as it's not given the verboten allure).

 

Third, the tools provided by many tech companies to help 'protect' kids are, too often, complete sh!te. Here's looking at YouTube Kids, PS4 parental controls, Google FamilyLink...

 

 

It's a tough one because YouTube can bring so much content unavailable anywhere else.  For example a child saving to buy a bike could use Youtube to watch reviews on various bike brands.  Maybe one approach would be to make family restrictions based on age plus a lot of education about the internet.   Maybe very young children only allowed to use the internet in family areas lounge kitchen an so on.   Older ones gradually given more freedom.   After all we expect 10 and 11 year olds to be mature enough to do road patrol at their schools.


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  # 2189414 1-Mar-2019 14:15
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freitasm: It is a hoax.

 

That's a relief. 


 
 
 
 


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  # 2189428 1-Mar-2019 14:40
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freitasm: It is a hoax.

 

That's a relief. 

 

 

But yet netsafe just put out this https://www.netsafe.org.nz/momo-challenge-advisory-february-2019/

 

And schools are sending emails out warning about it


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  # 2189430 1-Mar-2019 14:43
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I've just contacted the principal of the school my kids go to advising them it's a Hoax.

 

They sent out something the other day advising that one of the grounds keepers had taken seriously ill suddenly and suggesting they had told the kids and to be aware our kids might be needing extra support. I admire their sense of community, but it felt slightly over the top. 

 

 


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  # 2189433 1-Mar-2019 14:48
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networkn:

 

I've just contacted the principal of the school my kids go to advising them it's a Hoax.

 

They sent out something the other day advising that one of the grounds keepers had taken seriously ill suddenly and suggesting they had told the kids and to be aware our kids might be needing extra support. I admire their sense of community, but it felt slightly over the top. 

 

 

Yer I am about to do that, we just got an email about 5mins before I posted..


Also this


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  # 2189472 1-Mar-2019 15:10
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freitasm: How to not fall for this type of hoax

Be awesome if the media pick up on this for once but I'm not holding my breath


 
 
 
 




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  # 2189488 1-Mar-2019 15:31
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For what it's worth, I started this thread not because of something I saw on Facebook or Twitter. I don't have accounts with either and I never use them. 

 

I started the thread because of an 'authoritative' story about the subject I read on the RNZ site. That's right. Radio New Zealand. Our non-commercial publicly-funded 'serious' news service. After I read the story I checked around and found several other links that seemed to verify it. I then posted about it here.

 

I am really annoyed with RNZ (and 7 Sharp and probably other sources) for brainlessly repeating this damaging hoax without bothering to do even basic journalism by checking the facts and sources first. Clearly our useless media just copied and pasted what they found on overseas sites. Saves money, right?

 

This tears it for me with RNZ. I used to like them and I relied on them as a reasonably objective source of New Zealand news. But I have noticed a significant decline in the quality of their reporting, writing and editing since the fiasco with the former Minister of Broadcasting. Since then they have only gone downhill and talk of a 'quality' public service channel along the lines of the late lamented TVNZ 7 seems to have disappeared completely.

 

Anyway, I have had it. I am reluctantly deleting RNZ from my bookmarks. Fortunately there is still Newsroom and The Spinoff to fill the gap a little. If anyone has any other suggestions I will be grateful to hear them. It is getting harder and harder to find quality news coverage in New Zealand.

 

 

 

 





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  # 2189493 1-Mar-2019 15:38
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I am being utterly genuine here when I say the following things:

 

1) You weren't the only one to be concerned. Lots of people I know who perhaps should or should not have known better, have reported it to me and obviously it's got coverage. I wouldn't feel bad about it. I fell for it too, it seemed to be everywhere, and parents esp, wear their hearts of their sleeves, suicide and self farm are my biggest concerns as my kids grow older. Personally I'd rather fall for the odd hoax and being slightly over protective of my kids, than find out the extremely hard way I should have been more vigilant.

 

2) You should contact the RNZ CEO, and pretty copy and paste what you wrote above. CEO's need to see how the every day people feel instead of it being filtered by the people they commonly get their information from. I don't support pinging the CEO for everything and I'd keep it brief in letting him know why you are no longer trusting his org as a news source. 

 

 


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  # 2189496 1-Mar-2019 15:46
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Who recalls this? Is this Momo thing a jump scare challenge or something? The below video is what got me when I was like 7-10 years old lol. 

 

 

**EPILEPSY WARNING**


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  # 2189520 1-Mar-2019 17:00
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Coil:

 

Who recalls this? Is this Momo thing a jump scare challenge or something? The below video is what got me when I was like 7-10 years old lol. 

 

 

**EPILEPSY WARNING**

 



I remember it so well that I don't even need to play the video. I was a little bit older, but it messed with my head for a day or two.

Since the topic of children on Youtube has been brought up...


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  # 2189524 1-Mar-2019 17:07
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Coil:


Who recalls this? Is this Momo thing a jump scare challenge or something? The below video is what got me when I was like 7-10 years old lol. 



**EPILEPSY WARNING**




I remember it so well that I don't even need to play the video. I was a little bit older, but it messed with my head for a day or two.

Since the topic of children on Youtube has been brought up...



Can we enable swearing in this website so I can make a comment in response to how disturbing that is?



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  # 2189613 1-Mar-2019 20:18
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According to One News, NZ business and official agencies (overseas?) have pulled all YouTube advertising until this is dealt with. Google must be crapping their twisted trousers.

 

 





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  # 2189622 1-Mar-2019 21:12
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Rikkitic:

 

According to One News, NZ business and official agencies (overseas?) have pulled all YouTube advertising until this is dealt with. Google must be crapping their twisted trousers.

 

 

 

 

Wait though - there's "Momo Challenge" which has been explained as a hoax, there's the links I posted to above which are different, and the TV One news article is something different again:

 

Companies in New Zealand and globally have been abandoning the internet giant after an extensive number of sexual comments posted on innocent videos of children was exposed.

 

...

 

 

A YouTube spokesperson said over the past week they have taken a number of steps to better protect children and families. 

 

 

 

"Now, we will begin suspending comments on most videos that feature minors, with the exception of a small number of channels that actively moderate their comments and take additional steps to protect children.

 

 

 

"We understand that comments are an important way creators build and connect with their audiences, we also know that this is the right thing to do to protect the YouTube community."

 

 

 

Netsafe expected the action to "take a little while" to roll out due to the high number of videos on YouTube. 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2197450 13-Mar-2019 17:54
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Rikkitic:

 

Anyway, I have had it. I am reluctantly deleting RNZ from my bookmarks. Fortunately there is still Newsroom and The Spinoff to fill the gap a little. If anyone has any other suggestions I will be grateful to hear them. It is getting harder and harder to find quality news coverage in New Zealand.

 

 

That surprises me, as usually I find RNZ to be about the best on offer. There's always BBC over on 810 Khz AM if you are in the Auckland region or nearby with a decent Aerial setup.


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