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# 250970 3-Jun-2019 14:40
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I have been reading a very good recent Newshub article by John-Michael Swannix titled:

 

“Climate Change: What New Zealanders have to change and when”

 

I realise there have been lots of threads about climate change, but the above article provides a very good up-to-date summary of how climate change affects New Zealanders. The article has sections for energy, transport, air travel, shopping, and food.

 

The article states that NZ Greenhouse Gas Emissions come from agriculture (49%), transport (19%), energy (12%), manufacturing (9%), industry (6%), and waste (5%).

 

What do you think of this article? Do you agree, for example, that New Zealand should produce and sell green hydrogen to other countries; transition away from using natural gas for cooking and heating water; encourage people to buy electric cars; find substitutes for aviation fuels and reduce the demand for air travel; encourage people to shop online; keep an eye on the potential of vegetable protein; and plant billions of trees and burn trees and store the carbon underground to halt global warming?

 

So, what can you do to help halt global warming and when do you propose to do it?

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 2250383 3-Jun-2019 14:45
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So, what can you do to help halt global warming and when do you propose to do it?

 

NZ's global warming contribution is what? About 0.01%? Beijing's emissions in one day is probably the entire NZ's emissions in one year I'm guessing, even with all the cows farting around.

 

So what can you do to halt global warming - stop USA, China, Russia, India from emitting.

 

I'll write a letter to Donald Trump now. I mean send a tweet, letters cost CO2 to send.

 

I already don't drive to work, don't travel on weekends, don't take the bus, don't fly around the country/world for work or to see things, don't buy new stuff that are made overseas, don't buy imported food, don't eat much meat, don't have a log burner, don't send my recycling to Asia, don't have any cows or sheep, don't drink milk, have a green garden, don't use lawnmover, don't have a boat, don't have a barbeque, don't take the kids to ride on the train, don't participate in the tourism industry directly or indirectly,





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  # 2250386 3-Jun-2019 14:57
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To be honest absolutely Zero

 
 
 
 


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  # 2250392 3-Jun-2019 15:05
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Should we write a letter to James Shaw to also fly to USA China Russia India every month to tell them to stop emitting - that should complement the climate change conferences he already attends.





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  # 2250393 3-Jun-2019 15:06
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Batman:

 

So, what can you do to help halt global warming and when do you propose to do it?

 

NZ's global warming contribution is what? About 0.01%? Beijing's emissions in one day is probably the entire NZ's emissions in one year I'm guessing, even with all the cows farting around.

 

So what can you do to halt global warming - stop USA, China, Russia, India from emitting.

 

I'll write a letter to Donald Trump now. I mean send a tweet, letters cost CO2 to send.

 

I already don't drive to work, don't travel on weekends, don't take the bus, don't fly around the country/world for work or to see things, don't buy new stuff that are made overseas, don't buy imported food, don't eat much meat, don't have a log burner, don't send my recycling to Asia, don't have any cows or sheep, don't drink milk, have a green garden, don't use lawnmover, don't have a boat, don't have a barbeque, don't take the kids to ride on the train, 

 

 

Yes, NZ's emissions were 0.17% of the world's total emissions in 2014, but perhaps someone has a more up to date list than this one:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions

 

Because a large number of countries are listed as having less than 2% of global emissions, it's not really a satisfactory approach to say that all these countries can ignore the problem because they have a small percentage of global emissions.

 

 


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  # 2250394 3-Jun-2019 15:08
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Launch more rockets to monitor climate change lol

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  # 2250477 3-Jun-2019 15:46
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I'll buy a more fuel efficient V8 next time.






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  # 2250485 3-Jun-2019 16:14
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Didn't have kids so I have d9ne more than anyone who has had children, I consider my contribution made thank you.

 
 
 
 


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  # 2250486 3-Jun-2019 16:15
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Our best bet to combat Climate change from New Zealand is to come up with better technologies we can provide to much bigger nations to help them reduce their Carbon/waste output


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  # 2250594 3-Jun-2019 17:22
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how many of us want to give up our technological comforts and go back to a subsistence way of life?

 

I think we're kidding our selves that switching to electric cars and doing away with some plastic bags are anywhere enough.


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  # 2250603 3-Jun-2019 17:33
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Nothing...

 

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1049519866154242048

 

"reminder that 100 corporations are responsible for 71% of global greenhouse gas emissions and presenting the crisis as a moral failing on the part of individuals without noting this fact is journalistic malpractice."

 

Now I should note that this pithy quote has been shown to overestimate the impact of the top 100 corporations, but the sentiment is still valid.

 

Cheers - N

 

ps. having seen next reply, I will add "not having kids" to my list of zero things, making it a list of one thing. And that one thing outweighs any other damage I could do with all my toys, so I am taking that as a free pass to keep using plastic packaging and drive a V8 forever :-)





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  # 2250605 3-Jun-2019 17:35
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What I'm doing:

 

  • Reduce red meat consumption.
  • Fly no more than once or twice a year.
  • Walk and use public transport (ideally electric) where possible.
  • No kids.

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  # 2250620 3-Jun-2019 17:50
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It's okay. My kids will look after you when you can't do for yourself.




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Linux: To be honest absolutely Zero

 

I can double that, so Zero Zero for me.


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  # 2250634 3-Jun-2019 18:15
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Batman:

 

Should we write a letter to James Shaw to also fly to USA China Russia India every month to tell them to stop emitting - that should complement the climate change conferences he already attends.

 

 

Ok, we can ban transport, so your asparagus is now a 500km drive away. Cant have shops either as they use emissions.

 

Humans, like every other organism can exist here, and consume O, emit CO2 when we breathe, and emit other gases. When we arrived the atmosphere has plenty of scope. We just overdo it, thats all. We could also ban forest fires and volcanoes.

 

We overdo it, so we need to take care of that. One Chinese person = One Kiwi person, so China vs NZ is inaccurate. Its a cop out.

 

I feel its too late anyhow, as little is happening, and little will continue to happen until cool and oil runs out or is too costly. Money and how humans use it is the main problem. One day we will all cooperate and begin pushing solar, EV, wind, etc etc forward. Only cos there is no choice, not because we made a choice.


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  # 2250638 3-Jun-2019 18:32
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It's all nero fiddling while Rome burns.

 

 

 

We need to cut our population drastically and keep it down.

 

It's not just temperature, the insects are dying, the animals are dying, the forests and jungles are disappearing, the planet is filling up with concrete, plastic and humans.

 

We'll find out it's an ecosystem and we are not as important to ti as we think we are.

 

 


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