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networkn
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  #2333321 9-Oct-2019 13:00
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elpenguino:

 

 

 

Of course I do !

 

How many NZ data leaks have I become aware about in the last week?

 

How many NZ bridge collapses have I become aware about in the last week?

 

When I'm a data sharer or a bridge user I don't care how it is achieved. I.just.want.it.to.work.properly.

 

 

 

 

/me smdh

 

You clearly have no idea on the complexity of the situation, so I am not engaging this any further.

 

 


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  #2333323 9-Oct-2019 13:01
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Ditto





Most problems are the result of previous solutions...

All comment's I make are my own personal opinion and do not in any way, shape or form reflect the views of current or former employers unless specifically stated 

 
 
 
 


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  #2333327 9-Oct-2019 13:04
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Beccara:

 

My point still stands, People in all professions risk their livelihood when going up against management, In IT more so because there will always be some consultant willing to say what management wants to do it A-OK and you're just a troublemaker/stuck in the stone-age/not an active participate in bringing increased value to the stakeholders.

 

At-least engineers can point to a piece of metal and say that will break at X point and prove it with a lab, IT has no such tangible testing for most things security and even if they did things move so much that what you say is right today is wrong tomorrow. Expecting IT people to jump up and risk getting blackballed for demanding a SIEM solution that may or may not still be as useful 6-12-24months down the line or pushing 2fa when some consultant is saying it'll cost $X in lost productivity is looking at the wrong end of the problem

 

 

Regulation will come to fix the problem if the 'profession' will not do it by itself.

 

By definition we can't call IT a profession until it is required that practitioners become members of a governing body and abide by the ethics and standards thereof.

 

 

 

Yes, engineers and surgeons point to evidence to back their claims, I would suggest IT practitioners can do the same.


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  #2333349 9-Oct-2019 13:26
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networkn:

 

elpenguino:

 

 

 

Of course I do !

 

How many NZ data leaks have I become aware about in the last week?

 

How many NZ bridge collapses have I become aware about in the last week?

 

When I'm a data sharer or a bridge user I don't care how it is achieved. I.just.want.it.to.work.properly.

 

 

/me smdh

 

You clearly have no idea on the complexity of the situation, so I am not engaging this any further.

 

 

before departing, tell me: do you think data breaches are acceptable?


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  #2333352 9-Oct-2019 13:29
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elpenguino:

 

Regulation will come to fix the problem if the 'profession' will not do it by itself.

 

By definition we can't call IT a profession until it is required that practitioners become members of a governing body and abide by the ethics and standards thereof.

 

 

This makes about as much sense as governments asking for encryption backdoors.  


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  #2333364 9-Oct-2019 13:44
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No Data breaches aren't acceptable yet you keep coming after the IT guys, They are not the problem.





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  #2333507 9-Oct-2019 17:54
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One advantage of the medical registration system is being held to standards that out rank your employer.

You are accountable to multiple systems such as medical council and specialist colleges so saying you were just doing what your employer said isn't enough.

Break those standards and you are unemployable .

 
 
 
 


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  #2333510 9-Oct-2019 18:06
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Are you referring to surgeons or IT guys?





Most problems are the result of previous solutions...

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