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  #2358516 21-Nov-2019 11:16
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Who's next though? eBay? Also can't see Aliexpress wanting to collect GST on some $2 junk.


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  #2358528 21-Nov-2019 11:33
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This will just drive more people to reshippers that arent govt owned like NZ Post are, I guess if amazon dont start to charge GST from Japan then I will have to find a reshipper there. UK doesnt bother me since they dont sell anything worth buying at a decent price.





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  #2358599 21-Nov-2019 12:27
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Zigg:

 

Who's next though? eBay? Also can't see Aliexpress wanting to collect GST on some $2 junk.

 

 

You are wrong I'm afraid. Ali Express was among the first to announce that they were going to comply.


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  #2358620 21-Nov-2019 12:54
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^Interesting.

 

 

 

I just ordered from Networkonair, they have a special on at the moment so even with VAT+Shipping it was cheaper than Amazon UK could have sold it for. Their loss. Was hoping the cut-off date would be end of Nov, still a few items in my Wish List. Oh well.


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  #2358677 21-Nov-2019 14:00
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What happens if sellers just ignore our authorities and ship items to NZ without collecting GST? Doesn't that make it the buyer's problem?

 

 





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  #2358682 21-Nov-2019 14:12
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I see NZ has been completely removed from Amazon JPs list of countries that it will ship to . . .
https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202024700


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  #2358686 21-Nov-2019 14:18
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I think this is a storm in a teacup - check out this picture.

 

https://blog.taxjar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Where_does_Amazon.com_collect_sales_tax_from_buyers.png

 

All Amazon has to do is add another American state called  NZ and charge 15%.

 

Problem solved.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2358689 21-Nov-2019 14:24
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richms:

 

Lets see what happens after the 1st, since they probably dont want things in transit that have not had GST collected. 

 

Will really annoy me if it doesnt come right, as I have things in my .jp wish list waiting on the cash availability to order.

 

 

Amazon JP removed Australia as a shippable location back in July and it still hasn't been reinstated . . . so I don't like the chances of NZ being added back in any time soon.


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  #2358699 21-Nov-2019 14:56
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Rikkitic:

 

What happens if sellers just ignore our authorities and ship items to NZ without collecting GST? Doesn't that make it the buyer's problem?

 

 

 

 

No.

 

The law changes are already discussed extensively in the other huge thread about these GST changes, and they make it clear the assumption by customs is that all goods under $1000 would have either had the GST paid by the seller if they are liable for paying GST.

 

Nobody will be pulled up by customs for goods under $1000.

 

 


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  #2358700 21-Nov-2019 14:57
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If the government of countries like ours says "but we don't manufacture enough goods to make it fair!"  Then fix the economy so we do... or just plant trees and ban all plastic... what would i know

 

 

 

 

I'd certainly vote for whoever promised to ban everything that you can get from a $2 shop. That stuff is such utter c**p it'd be better for everyone if it went directly from the factory to landfill. At least then it would avoid the round trip to New Zealand.





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  #2358703 21-Nov-2019 15:02
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decibel:

 

I think this is a storm in a teacup - check out this picture.

 

https://blog.taxjar.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Where_does_Amazon.com_collect_sales_tax_from_buyers.png

 

All Amazon has to do is add another American state called  NZ and charge 15%.

 

Problem solved.

 

 

 

 

Amazon collects GST from purchases to NZ from their US site and has done for probably 10 years. They don't need to add another country.

 

That image refers to the US site, whereas this discussion is about the UK site. Amazon UK don't collect sales tax for the US.

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  #2358706 21-Nov-2019 15:05
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Rikkitic:

 

What happens if sellers just ignore our authorities and ship items to NZ without collecting GST? Doesn't that make it the buyer's problem?

 

 

 

 

Major players like Amazon are not going to get into a legal/political stoush over a market which is less than a rounding error. They will take the course of least resistance and simply remove the thorn and place us on the no go list.

 

 





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  #2358766 21-Nov-2019 15:52
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SaltyNZ:

 

I'd certainly vote for whoever promised to ban everything that you can get from a $2 shop. That stuff is such utter c**p it'd be better for everyone if it went directly from the factory to landfill. At least then it would avoid the round trip to New Zealand.

 

 

Hey don't pick on my favourite shops! You can get some great stuff from $2 shops that other shops used to charge way more for.


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  #2358790 21-Nov-2019 17:12
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I wonder what will happen to some pre-orders I have placed with the UK and JP website. I presume they will be cancelled now :(


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  #2358807 21-Nov-2019 17:47
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Question.

 

 

 

Company A is a large company based outside NZ. Many NZers buy things from it.

 

The government says to it "You must collect our taxes and send them to us!"

 

 

 

Company A says "No."

 

 

 

Company A carry on selling to NZers, not collecting taxes.

 

 

 

What happens?






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