Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10
73 posts

Master Geek


  #2400926 17-Jan-2020 18:09
Send private message quote this post

GSManiac:

 

Anyone had any luck receiving a preorder placed before this change took effect?

 

 

 

I have a DVD that i preordered back in September that is due for release at the end of this month.

 

 

 

Have been told by two AmazonUK  CSR that my order will ship because I placed the order before the change happened.

 

 

 

Yet so many people on here have been having their orders cancelled i don't have 100% faith in what amazon are telling me.

 

 

 

 

I received an item I had on pre-order from Amazon Japan this week, so that still shipped. I have a few items still on pre-order from Amazon UK that haven't been cancelled yet. I think they will be sent still.


2909 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2400942 17-Jan-2020 19:12
Send private message quote this post

Elixir:


They'll never ship to NZ again because our government arbitrarily believes our country actually has everything we want and we should support the virtually non-existent domestic market and their inflated prices solely because they're afraid of being undercut by people importing products (wherein doing so is still cheaper most of the time). 




No the main reason for this is that unless GST is collected on imports our tax base is being significantly eroded. It's not a new tax, just a change to the exemption.

 
 
 
 


Lock him up!
11362 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2400947 17-Jan-2020 19:34
3 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

Handle9:

 


No the main reason for this is that unless GST is collected on imports our tax base is being significantly eroded. It's not a new tax, just a change to the exemption.

 

Is it really being 'significantly eroded'? I had a different impression.

 

 





I don't think there is ever a bad time to talk about how absurd war is, how old men make decisions and young people die. - George Clooney
 


8274 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #2400948 17-Jan-2020 19:34
2 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

Handle9:
Elixir:


They'll never ship to NZ again because our government arbitrarily believes our country actually has everything we want and we should support the virtually non-existent domestic market and their inflated prices solely because they're afraid of being undercut by people importing products (wherein doing so is still cheaper most of the time). 




No the main reason for this is that unless GST is collected on imports our tax base is being significantly eroded. It's not a new tax, just a change to the exemption.


No it's just onother tax grab to appease the NZ retailers.




Regards,

Old3eyes


3035 posts

Uber Geek


  #2400949 17-Jan-2020 19:41
Send private message quote this post

old3eyes:
Handle9:
Elixir:


They'll never ship to NZ again because our government arbitrarily believes our country actually has everything we want and we should support the virtually non-existent domestic market and their inflated prices solely because they're afraid of being undercut by people importing products (wherein doing so is still cheaper most of the time). 




No the main reason for this is that unless GST is collected on imports our tax base is being significantly eroded. It's not a new tax, just a change to the exemption.


No it's just onother tax grab to appease the NZ retailers.

No, we have a consumption tax in this country. If you buy something (or a service) you are supposed to pay tax.




Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself - A. H. Weiler

2909 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2400974 17-Jan-2020 21:27
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Rikkitic:

Handle9:



No the main reason for this is that unless GST is collected on imports our tax base is being significantly eroded. It's not a new tax, just a change to the exemption.


Is it really being 'significantly eroded'? I had a different impression.


 



Check the tax (or lack of) paid by large corporates and high net worth individuals.

Transfer pricing, creative tax structures and international e-commerce are causing huge tax problems everywhere in the world with the burden increasingly on the middle class.

13841 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2400993 17-Jan-2020 22:29
3 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

robjg63:
old3eyes:
Handle9:
Elixir:

 

 

 

They'll never ship to NZ again because our government arbitrarily believes our country actually has everything we want and we should support the virtually non-existent domestic market and their inflated prices solely because they're afraid of being undercut by people importing products (wherein doing so is still cheaper most of the time). 

 




No the main reason for this is that unless GST is collected on imports our tax base is being significantly eroded. It's not a new tax, just a change to the exemption.


No it's just onother tax grab to appease the NZ retailers.

No, we have a consumption tax in this country. If you buy something (or a service) you are supposed to pay tax.

 

 

 

If you buy it here, I would agree.

 

 

 

If you buy it somewhere else, I do not agree it should be subject to tax. I agree that it presently is.






 
 
 
 


Webhead
2410 posts

Uber Geek

Moderator
Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2400996 17-Jan-2020 22:33
Send private message quote this post

Geektastic:

 

If you buy it somewhere else, I do not agree it should be subject to tax. I agree that it presently is.

 

 

Why do you think it should be different? 

 

Should money made abroad not be taxable in NZ either?


2909 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2401008 17-Jan-2020 22:56
Send private message quote this post

Geektastic:

 

robjg63:
old3eyes:
Handle9:
Elixir:

 

 

 

They'll never ship to NZ again because our government arbitrarily believes our country actually has everything we want and we should support the virtually non-existent domestic market and their inflated prices solely because they're afraid of being undercut by people importing products (wherein doing so is still cheaper most of the time). 

 




No the main reason for this is that unless GST is collected on imports our tax base is being significantly eroded. It's not a new tax, just a change to the exemption.


No it's just onother tax grab to appease the NZ retailers.

No, we have a consumption tax in this country. If you buy something (or a service) you are supposed to pay tax.

 

If you buy it here, I would agree.

 

If you buy it somewhere else, I do not agree it should be subject to tax. I agree that it presently is.

 

 

If we don't pay tax on imported goods then other taxes will need to go up. The government requires a certain amount of money to function and it will get the revenue from somewhere.


2281 posts

Uber Geek


  #2402040 20-Jan-2020 10:31
Send private message quote this post

I had a pre-order from Amazon Japan filled (ordered start of October, shipped 27th December)

 

Frustrates me that all non-American Amazon stores are a no-go for New Zealand; I thought it might be because all these stores will take the local "GST/VAT" off the purchase price for New Zealand orders, and they don't want to put in a second system to take one GST/VAT off, and then add our one back on ... I could be wrong though.

 

Been looking around for alternative stores that offer what I was getting from Amazon Japan, but they are all so very expensive these days 


13841 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2402102 20-Jan-2020 11:02
2 people support this post
Send private message quote this post

jarledb:

Geektastic:


If you buy it somewhere else, I do not agree it should be subject to tax. I agree that it presently is.



Why do you think it should be different? 


Should money made abroad not be taxable in NZ either?



Of course not. What did NZ do in that scenario? It should either be tax free if you’re canny enough or taxable where you made it.

Purchases should be taxed where you make them, not where you take them home to.





2233 posts

Uber Geek

Lifetime subscriber

  #2402364 20-Jan-2020 13:57
One person supports this post
Send private message quote this post

Well you made the purchase most likely in nz sitting in nz and payed with nz based payment method.

6900 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2402370 20-Jan-2020 14:04
Send private message quote this post

If I go to a post office in England and send something to another part of England then I pay VAT but no GST.

 

If I buy something from Amazon UK via YouShop then I pay VAT on the postage (within the UK), GST on the VAT, and GST on the postage.

 

I'm unlikely to use YouShop again after that experience...


22986 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2402536 20-Jan-2020 16:30
Send private message quote this post

Behodar:

 

If I go to a post office in England and send something to another part of England then I pay VAT but no GST.

 

If I buy something from Amazon UK via YouShop then I pay VAT on the postage (within the UK), GST on the VAT, and GST on the postage.

 

I'm unlikely to use YouShop again after that experience...

 

 

 

 

So youshop are charging GST on the VAT inclusive price? WTH?





Richard rich.ms

8274 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #2402538 20-Jan-2020 16:38
Send private message quote this post

richms:

 

Behodar:

 

If I go to a post office in England and send something to another part of England then I pay VAT but no GST.

 

If I buy something from Amazon UK via YouShop then I pay VAT on the postage (within the UK), GST on the VAT, and GST on the postage.

 

I'm unlikely to use YouShop again after that experience...

 

 

 

 

So youshop are charging GST on the VAT inclusive price? WTH?

 

 

If you buy something from Amazon UK and ship to Youshop UK you will be charged UK VAT on item and postage  and then Youshop will charge you NZ GST on the whole amount and postage to NZ. 





Regards,

Old3eyes


1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Withings launches three new devices to help monitor heart health from home
Posted 13-Feb-2020 20:05


Auckland start-up Yourcar matches new car buyers with dealerships
Posted 13-Feb-2020 18:05


School gardens go high tech to teach kids the importance of technology
Posted 13-Feb-2020 11:10


Malwarebytes finds Mac threats outpace Windows for the first time
Posted 13-Feb-2020 08:01


Amazon launches Echo Show 8 in Australia and New Zealand
Posted 8-Feb-2020 20:36


Vodafone New Zealand starts two year partnership with LetsPlay.Live
Posted 28-Jan-2020 11:24


Ring launches indoor-only security camera
Posted 23-Jan-2020 17:26


New report findings will help schools implement the digital technologies curriculum content
Posted 23-Jan-2020 17:25


N4L to upgrade & support wireless internet inside schools
Posted 23-Jan-2020 17:22


Netflix releases 21 Studio Ghibli works
Posted 22-Jan-2020 11:42


Vodafone integrates eSIM into device and wearable roadmap
Posted 17-Jan-2020 09:45


Do you need this camera app? Group investigates privacy implications
Posted 16-Jan-2020 03:30


JBL launches headphones range designed for gaming
Posted 13-Jan-2020 09:59


Withings introduces ScanWatch wearable combining ECG and sleep apnea detection
Posted 9-Jan-2020 18:34


NZ Police releases public app
Posted 8-Jan-2020 11:43



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.