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jonb
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  #2451581 31-Mar-2020 14:50
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My big multi-national employer is also going down this route.

 
 
 
 

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  #2451606 31-Mar-2020 15:27
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We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.


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  #2451622 31-Mar-2020 16:05
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NumPy:

 

We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.

 

 

I applaud your attitude. 

 

 




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  #2451631 31-Mar-2020 16:24
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As an example we do this every xmas when we shut down the business for essential maintenance.  You can only do it once every 12 months.

 

In a forced shutdown like the present circumstance forced leave taking means: -

 

- Workers get paid

 

- Employers are able reduce leave liabilities

 

- When business resumes workers will be available, not on leave, speeding recovery

 

 

 

 





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  #2451659 31-Mar-2020 16:40
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NumPy:

 

We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.

 

 

If your employer has a 30% drop in revenue (plus other conditions) then you could get $585 a week.


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  #2451668 31-Mar-2020 16:44
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minimoke:

 

NumPy:

 

We have just been asked to take a week unpaid leave. 

 

I'm fine with it as its for the "greater good" of not laying off staff right now.

 

 

If your employer has a 30% drop in revenue (plus other conditions) then you could get $585 a week.

 

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.


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  #2451975 1-Apr-2020 09:10
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NumPy:

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.

 

 

Hmm, I don't know the answer but I imagine this would make it more of a grey, complex area. Out of interest, are you a PAYE employee of that company or are you a contractor (ie you are effectively self employed and provide services to that company)?




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antonknee:

 

NumPy:

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.

 

 

Hmm, I don't know the answer but I imagine this would make it more of a grey, complex area. Out of interest, are you a PAYE employee of that company or are you a contractor (ie you are effectively self employed and provide services to that company)?

 

 

I think if you are paid out of the US, this is not a multi-national. The pay arrangements of the paying jurisdiction, the US in this case, would apply. As far as income tax is concerned there is a reciprocal arrangement between the US and NZ.


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  #2452022 1-Apr-2020 09:59
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antonknee:

 

NumPy:

 

Without going into too many details, we are a US based company and are paid out of the US. We have local offices in NZ. I'm not sure if we would see this benefit. I need to do some more research as its a gray area right now.

 

 

Hmm, I don't know the answer but I imagine this would make it more of a grey, complex area. Out of interest, are you a PAYE employee of that company or are you a contractor (ie you are effectively self employed and provide services to that company)?

 

 

We paid in $NZD, and pay into Kiwisaver, PAYE etc.. I'm a permanent employee.

 

For comparisons sake, we probably no different to other global companies which do software development in NZ (IBM, Google, Amazon, Alcatel-Lucent), except we have no clients in NZ.


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NumPy:

 

We paid in $NZD, and pay into Kiwisaver, PAYE etc.. I'm a permanent employee.

 

For comparisons sake, we probably no different to other global companies which do software development in NZ (IBM, Google, Amazon, Alcatel-Lucent), except we have no clients in NZ.

 



 

All of those companies have NZ entities and pay their employee’s in NZ. They are multi-nationals, the definition of which is ‘owns a local legal entity conducting their business affairs’. 

 

I think you probably work for a US business that has employees located in foreign countries. Which is different.


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Having thought about this, a bit I believe fundametnally it would depend on who the employer is. Ie legally - if there is an NZ entity that is the employer, or if you are employed directly by a US entity that has no NZ registration (company number or an NZBN for example). The US company may also be using a GEO or PEO (global employer organisation) who is operating here and is actually the employer of note. Would probably need to check your employment agreement to be sure.

 

There is a concept of remote payroll but I believe (although well out of my area of expertise) that this still requires an NZ registration and IRD number etc.

 

Certainly if there is an NZ entity that employs you, and they have a 30% decline in revenue or expected revenue then they should be eligible for the subsidy.

 


Edited to add that it may even be worthwile @NumPy contacting MSD to see if they can suggest what may be applicable - although they will likely need to know who the employer of note is and some more details around that side of it.


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