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  #2445767 24-Mar-2020 20:24
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Well I will remove myself from this thread as we have been deemed as an essential service thus making me work from our branch to support the transport industry basically.

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  #2445775 24-Mar-2020 20:32
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FFS; ... 30 seconds googling man...

 

 

 

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-novel-coronavirus-information-specific-audiences/covid-19-advice-workplaces

 

"From 11:59pm on Weds 25th will move to Alert Level 4 – Eliminate. This means businesses must close with staff either working from home or taking leave. Businesses can continue operating at Alert Level 4. "

 

Your post is unhelpful and misleading and could have been avoided with a cursory search.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

 

 


Which contradicts the information under

 

I've been looking into this as the information is confusing and often hard to find. Hence the query.





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  #2445776 24-Mar-2020 20:35
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openmedia:

 

Yes i am serious. The phrasing in several areas implies no contact - including online - and all businesses to close, with no exclusion for those who can work from home.

 

 

Do you even understand WHY we are in a lockdown? Honestly man, just use your brain for a moment.

 

You can't give someone Covid 19 remotely. It's about limiting the spread of the Virus.

 

Why would they be preventing people from working from home? How do you think Payroll will happen, bills get paid?

 

/me smdh

 

 

Totally agree. My issue is that the information is confusing, open to interpretation, and often contradictory.

 

I'm fully expecting legal challenges - eg The Warehouse.





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  #2445797 24-Mar-2020 20:52
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Dial111: Well I will remove myself from this thread as we have been deemed as an essential service thus making me work from our branch to support the transport industry basically.

 

We've been deemed essential as well, but still working from home. Office is available, but don't see anyone going there.





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  #2445893 24-Mar-2020 23:08
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Dial111: Well I will remove myself from this thread as we have been deemed as an essential service thus making me work from our branch to support the transport industry basically.


We've been deemed essential as well, but still working from home. Office is available, but don't see anyone going there.



My day to day job can be done from home easily enough however our core business is in the supply chain so someone needs to be onsite to provide these goods which unfortunately cannot be done from home, I’m it as the operational manager for the entire South Island so I have put all my staff into lockdown and I will run all logistics myself to prevent any potential viral spread by running a rostered skeleton crew.

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  #2446487 25-Mar-2020 17:12
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I've been working from home for years, first time I've set up a proper space to do it in this house though.  Went alright today, despite being so crazily busy I haven't even looked out the window I was stoked to have beside me.

 

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  #2446513 25-Mar-2020 17:45
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gehenna:

 

I've been working from home for years, first time I've set up a proper space to do it in this house though.  Went alright today, despite being so crazily busy I haven't even looked out the window I was stoked to have beside me.

 

 

Clean as fook, nice

 

I think my temporary situation is gonna get an overhaul tomorrow...

 

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  #2446609 25-Mar-2020 19:22
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Talkiet:

 

FFS; ... 30 seconds googling man...

 

 

 

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-novel-coronavirus-information-specific-audiences/covid-19-advice-workplaces

 

"From 11:59pm on Weds 25th will move to Alert Level 4 – Eliminate. This means businesses must close with staff either working from home or taking leave. Businesses can continue operating at Alert Level 4. "

 

Your post is unhelpful and misleading and could have been avoided with a cursory search.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

 

 

I certainly don't intend stopping from working at home. For me the shutdown actually gives a chance to catch up on some things that need to be completed.





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  #2446662 25-Mar-2020 20:46
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Is anyone else in the same boat as my wife and I, where we have a 2 (nearly 3) year old daughter that basically requires non stop attention and both parents work full time in IT (me) and IT/telco (her)?

At the moment we're doing half days, so one of us looks after her in the morning then the other in the afternoon. Neither of us have enough leave to sustain this for 4 weeks though, so at some point will have to start taking sick/domestic/unpaid leave :|

 

The annoying thing is that at both our work places/teams we're the only ones in this situation as other's have kids much older and able to look after themselves, without sitting them in front of a TV. So to them, it's just BAU they have no issues working from home with their kids.

 

With my job I already work from home, so I'm used to it, but I can see my wife is getting more stressed by the day as our daughter is already bored not being at preschool..


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  #2446684 25-Mar-2020 21:14
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dfnt:

Is anyone else in the same boat as my wife and I, where we have a 2 (nearly 3) year old daughter that basically requires non stop attention and both parents work full time in IT (me) and IT/telco (her)?



I feel your pain - it is very difficult situation. At least we have a slightly older one that can entertain the younger sometimes...

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  #2446694 25-Mar-2020 21:45
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Yeah, ah well, we'll see how it pans out


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  #2446701 25-Mar-2020 21:59
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openmedia:

 

Talkiet:

 

FFS; ... 30 seconds googling man...

 

 

 

https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-novel-coronavirus-information-specific-audiences/covid-19-advice-workplaces

 

"From 11:59pm on Weds 25th will move to Alert Level 4 – Eliminate. This means businesses must close with staff either working from home or taking leave. Businesses can continue operating at Alert Level 4. "

 

Your post is unhelpful and misleading and could have been avoided with a cursory search.

 

Cheers - N

 

 

 

 


Which contradicts the information under

 

I've been looking into this as the information is confusing and often hard to find. Hence the query.

 

 

I don't see how it's contradictory at all. Honestly, I think you're not using common sense.


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  #2446759 26-Mar-2020 00:08
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Journeyman:

 

 

 

I don't see how it's contradictory at all. Honestly, I think you're not using common sense.

 

 

 

 

You've obviously never been involved in a work place issue where lawyers took apart some very similar wording. I thankfully wasn't one of the parties involved other than spending a lot of time performing digital forensics.

 

Most of the wording they have published has never ever been thru a lawyer and as such is open to a lot of interpretation. Common sense goes out of the window in our current situation.

 

 

 

If I've made you sit up and think.. I'm winning.





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  #2446761 26-Mar-2020 00:13
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dfnt: ... we have a 2 (nearly 3) year old daughter that basically requires non stop attention and both parents work full time ...

 

Start here: https://covid19.govt.nz/help-and-advice/for-everyone/parents-and-caregivers/

 

  •  

    Essential Workers with children aged 0 – 14
    Where possible, essential workers need to make their own arrangements for childcare, due to limited capacity.
    We know this will not be possible for everyone. Alternative arrangements have been made so essential workers can access childcare and continue to work.
    Your employer will tell you if you qualify as an essential worker for these purposes.

     

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    If you are making your own arrangements
    Making your own arrangements is the preferred approach. We encourage you to use your existing networks for in home care, for example a neighbor, relative, friend or current carer/nanny who can come to your house, or provide childcare in their own home. There are Public Health rules you need to comply with:
        The person providing care for your children essentially becomes an extension of your self-isolating household group
        This group must remain the same for the whole 4-week period
        The carer should not care for children from other households/families (other than their own) over the same period
        If a child or carer becomes unwell, they must stay at home

     

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    If you do not have access to childcare through your own networks
    If you are unable to access childcare to perform your essential service, the government has agreed that it will fund other licensed childcare providers (for example through PORSE, OSCAR and Barnados) to provide in home care to the children aged 0-14 of essential workers. They would be subject to the same Public Health rules as set out above.
    For the purposes of providing care to children of essential workers, the in-home carer will be classified as an essential worker.

     

 

 

Also, have a look at https://covid19.govt.nz/government-actions/financial-support/

 

  • The COVID-19 Leave Payment is available for people who ... cannot work because they are caring for dependents who are required to self-isolate ...

 





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  #2446770 26-Mar-2020 00:51
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openmedia:

 

Journeyman:

 

 

 

I don't see how it's contradictory at all. Honestly, I think you're not using common sense.

 

 

 

 

You've obviously never been involved in a work place issue where lawyers took apart some very similar wording. I thankfully wasn't one of the parties involved other than spending a lot of time performing digital forensics.

 

Most of the wording they have published has never ever been thru a lawyer and as such is open to a lot of interpretation. Common sense goes out of the window in our current situation.

 

 

 

If I've made you sit up and think.. I'm winning.

 

 

Do you really think that there has been an opportunity for a full legal review of everything published? 

 

How would you have managed this?


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