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  #2453748 3-Apr-2020 13:20
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Kiwifruta: N.Z. government reviews its relationship with the CCP.

 

 

 

CCP?





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  #2453799 3-Apr-2020 14:18
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Kiwifruta: N.Z. government reviews its relationship with the CCP.

 

 

 

CCP?

 

 

The (smaller) Soviet Union - hence the removal of a C? 

 

 

 

 





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Kiwifruta: N.Z. government reviews its relationship with the CCP.


Communist Party of China?




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NumPy:

1) Prices of apartments will drop. Nobody is going to want to live in tight urban residential apartments anymore. I certainly don't want to be living in a place like that currently and am quiet happy living semi-rural. Living in Auckland or Wellington city will no longer be attractive.


2) Loads of money will be spent on infrastructure to get the economy going again. Government has already hinted at this and I look forward to more major highway upgrades.


3) Public transport loses a lot of support. I don't see it returning to normal for a long time, if ever. Our perceptions on PT is changing, people are now seeing it as something to avoid. I don't want to go anywhere near a bus or train for a very very long time.


4) Lots of family values will hopefully return. As a family in our home for example this crisis has brought up closer together. I'm thoroughly enjoying my time at home with my kids, and this has so far been my silver lining through this difficult time. Cooking with the kids, and even gardening with them is something they have never been interested in doing with me before.


5) The green party may be losing a lot of support after this, I saw an interview with James Shaw about creating a sustainable future. This stuff looks foreign right now in the current environment, I'm certainly not interested in hearing about saving the planet right now. I'm more interested in hearing how we going to save lives.


6) We now appreciate the value of borders. I think this has brought a lot of people together in NZ, previously we have been very divided on this one.


7) PM Jacinda Ardern will go down as either the best PM in NZ history or worst. I don't think there will be many people undecided. Currently I am leaning towards her being the worst due to her inability to act early, and the impeding disaster which is now looming. We are currently unprepared, and we have had months to get ready. The silver lining here is that the current government may be dissolved before the end of the year. A new government can focus on rebuilding the economy, and paying back all this debt that is currently being created.


8) Maybe this crisis will bring us Kiwis closer together. Many kiwis have been very divided for a long time.



Not sure I agree with much of this.

I think apartment living will continue to grow in popularity - especially as apartments improve in quality. I do think shoebox apartments (rightly so) will decline in quality. I think as long as cities grow in popularity PT and apartments will continue to grow in popularity. I’m not sure COVID-19 will really turn the tide on that particularly much, past pandemics haven’t really had that effect.

As for the Green Party losing support - maybe. But I hope not and I don’t think they will - as saving the planet really goes hand in hand with saving people. Sustainable futures certainly include good heath outcomes and good outcomes for people generally. The Green Party is about more than just carbon emissions or conservation. I would hope that the Green values of people, social justice, sustainability, inclusivity and diversity would have the opposite effect, and personally, am inclined to believe it’s exactly what the country needs now and in the future.

Suspect you are quite right about infrastructure spending - gov have hinted at this very strongly. Agree on borders and Jacinda Ardern - rightly or wrongly. I personally think the way JA and NZ have handled COVID-19 so far is pretty good. There’s a few things I perhaps would change (border restrictions earlier, lockdown earlier) but broadly our response has been excellent - we are ranked the third best/safest country to be in during this crisis.

As for it bringing Kiwis closer together? I hope so but I’m not sure it will. There’s been (at least online) a fair amount of division over COVID-19 and the response.




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  #2453816 3-Apr-2020 14:42
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I personally hope if there's going to be infrastructure spending it does go on buses, trains, cycling, more trains and not the great god CAR.





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  #2453821 3-Apr-2020 14:45
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Given enough investment, the local train may actually go beyond the borders of the park! 😁


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  #2453839 3-Apr-2020 14:52
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Behodar:

 

Given enough investment, the local train may actually go beyond the borders of the park! 😁

 

 

Very true, every self respecting town needs a rail link to the airport nowadays...





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  #2453840 3-Apr-2020 14:55
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we are ranked the third best/safest country to be in during this crisis.

 

Just wondering who did this ranking. And who is 1 & 2.

 

 


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  #2453842 3-Apr-2020 15:00
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This is the local railway, for all those of you desperate to know -

 

 

 





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  #2453859 3-Apr-2020 15:19
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rb99:

 

This is the local railway, for all those of you desperate to know -

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah that's great when the sun is shining, but I'm not taking that to work when it's raining! How am I supposed to watch Netflix on my phone while I hold a coffee and an umbrella? 

 

 





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  #2453866 3-Apr-2020 15:24
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PhantomNVD: The environment in general getting a month to three ‘breather’ period is a plus.

I also think both employees and employers will have a much better idea of the possibilities of remote working from home, and many may continue to do so for at least part of their irking week. There’s no really good resin for an office full of workers all on their PCs, and perhaps call centers and number crunchers get to stay home, also freeing up office space and even the traffic.

 

 

 

I've been thinking about this. There have been multiple articles published, starting a few months back, showing the huge reductions in pollution due to the shutdown. The scientists and reporters have been putting that out there as a hopeful message of 'See, look what a difference we can make if we put our minds to it.'

 

But the pessimist in me thinks that what the climate deniers are all hearing is "Look what catastrophic damage we would do to the economy if we gave in the climate hysteria."

 

Personally I think that as a society, the only lesson learned will be that we don't learn lessons.





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  #2453870 3-Apr-2020 15:26
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Handsomedan:

 

Yeah that's great when the sun is shining, but I'm not taking that to work when it's raining! How am I supposed to watch Netflix on my phone while I hold a coffee and an umbrella? 

 

 

 

 

Sheesh, all you guys do is complain! Wear a raincoat, carry a keep cup, and get a waterproof phone. You might have to skip like one avocado toast a week.

 

 





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frankv:

 

antonknee:

 

we are ranked the third best/safest country to be in during this crisis.

 

Just wondering who did this ranking. And who is 1 & 2.

 

 

Interested too.


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  #2453875 3-Apr-2020 15:33
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frankv:

 

antonknee:

 

we are ranked the third best/safest country to be in during this crisis.

 

Just wondering who did this ranking. And who is 1 & 2.

 

 

 

 

Norway, Sweden have my money


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  #2453882 3-Apr-2020 15:50
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In a word. None.


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