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johno1234
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  #3072097 4-May-2023 09:06
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Rikkitic:

 

Eating the banana was a brilliant piece of performance art, which should have considerably increased the value of the work.

 

 

 

 

Oh yes!

 

And it is a living artistic process, where the banana will metamorphose into its new form, post digestion, soon to be greeted with rapturous applause in a unique live performative unveiling.

 

It is metaphor for something, up to the appreciative art world to decide exactly what this is.


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  #3072554 5-May-2023 01:46
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neb:
k1w1k1d:

 

How can a banana taped to a wall be worth NZ$193,000?  Someone has got to be taking the p...!

 

Banana artwork eaten by 'hungry' museum visitor | Stuff.co.nz

 

It's a world-famous artwork. How can Kim Kardashian, who's famous for being famous, be worth NZ $2 billion? Someone has got to be taking the p...!

 

It's not her that's worth that much, it's the risk insurance money for her butt. 😅

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #3073058 6-May-2023 12:48
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freitasm:This: The collapse of New Freeland, the sovereign citizen Utopia that wasn’t. The whole "movement".

 

Paywalled!


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  #3073059 6-May-2023 12:52
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Well, that's its own W-T-F then, because it works fine here...


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  #3073062 6-May-2023 13:03
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msukiwi:

 

freitasm:This: The collapse of New Freeland, the sovereign citizen Utopia that wasn’t. The whole "movement".

 

Paywalled!

 

 

Really? It loads for me and I am no subscriber. Do you have script blockers?





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  #3073063 6-May-2023 13:05
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Behodar:Well, that's its own W-T-F then, because it works fine here...

 

Chrome:

 

 

Edge:

 

 

Thanks for the clue to the answer!


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  #3073148 6-May-2023 15:18
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freitasm:This: The collapse of New Freeland, the sovereign citizen Utopia that wasn’t. The whole "movement".

 

Paywalled!

 

 

You don't need to read it, the headline is enough, it was the words "sovereign citizen" in it. So "nutcases try to set up alternate-universe reality and fail". The rest is just a blow-by-blow description of the train wreck in progress.

 

 

Edited to add: You've gotta laugh at the SovCit nonsense, it's based on the premise that laws don't exist and don't apply to them, and they get there via a crazy misinterpretation and misapplication of random cherrypicked bits of laws that... don't apply... uhhhhh....

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neb: You don't need to read it, the headline is enough, it was the words "sovereign citizen" in it. So "nutcases try to set up alternate-universe reality and fail". The rest is just a blow-by-blow description of the train wreck in progress.

 

Edited to add: You've gotta laugh at the SovCit nonsense, it's based on the premise that laws don't exist and don't apply to them, and they get there via a crazy misinterpretation and misapplication of random cherrypicked bits of laws that... don't apply... uhhhhh....

 

Nutcases much.

 

Don't want no stinkin' laws or govmunt.

 

Remember what happened on the lawn at the Corner of Molesworth Street and Lambton Quay. Some of the same people turned up there. In the end the campers put some rules in place, some of which were around when music could be played out loud.

 

Over the centuries as civilisation has evolved we have figured out we need to lay down guidelines (laws) to ensure we all act in a civilised manner.

 

To think it can be any other way leads to anarchy. Seems they don't have the mental capacity to think it through, or they have a hidden agenda.





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  #3073638 8-May-2023 09:33
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Seeing a personalised plate: QVR43T (Police jargon used for Query Vehicle Registration for a 3T (Traffic Stop))!


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  #3073761 8-May-2023 12:13
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neb:

 

You've gotta laugh at the SovCit nonsense, it's based on the premise that laws don't exist and don't apply to them, and they get there via a crazy misinterpretation and misapplication of random cherrypicked bits of laws that... don't apply... uhhhhh....

 

And, what's more, arguing in a NZ Court that the laws of NZ don't apply to them. I mean, either they apply, in which case a NZ Court is relevant but arguing isn't, or they don't apply, in which case a NZ Court isn't relevant.

 

Personally, I'd happily donate a chunk of land somewhere to their cause, including renouncing all NZ claim and title and sovereignty to it, so that their SovCit creed can apply to it. Anyone who wants is free to go there and take with them whatever they like, on condition that they renounce their NZ citizenship and therefore all the rights and privileges that relate to it. i.e. they couldn't come back.

 

Ideally, the land I'd give would be outside cellphone range, maybe out the back of Waiouru, or in a scruffy forest park like Tongariro Forest, or an island on a lake. Pipe the extraction fan ventilation from the nearest KFC to it. Fence it off and leave them to it. Maybe you could give them an offshore island (e.g. Pitt Island in the Chathams, or one of the 3 uninhabited Cook Islands) but without removing sovereignty so that China couldn't just come, shoot up the SovCits, and claim it.  I'd even give up a chunk of a nice park like Abel Tasman, because I couldn't see them lasting 5 years, except the fences would be ugly.

 

 


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msukiwi:

 

Seeing a personalised plate: QVR43T (Police jargon used for Query Vehicle Registration for a 3T (Traffic Stop))!

 

 

Interesting that the Police still use the code "QVR" (it was the initialisation of Query Vehicle Register, not Registration, btw).
I don't suppose it's still the same software that we wrote in 1975/76 at the Wanganui (sic) Computer Centre!
It was Univac ANSI-74 COBOL linking into a DMS-1100 CODASYL compliant database - the database was enormous, it filled up several cabinets of massive 200MB disk pack drives

 

Yes I'm old! LOL


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  #3073831 8-May-2023 16:26
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msukiwi:

 

Seeing a personalised plate: QVR43T (Police jargon used for Query Vehicle Registration for a 3T (Traffic Stop))!

 

 

Interesting that the Police still use the code "QVR" (it was the initialisation of Query Vehicle Register, not Registration, btw).
I don't suppose it's still the same software that we wrote in 1975/76 at the Wanganui (sic) Computer Centre!
It was Univac ANSI-74 COBOL linking into a DMS-1100 CODASYL compliant database - the database was enormous, it filled up several cabinets of massive 200MB disk pack drives

 

Yes I'm old! LOL

 

 

I worked with Burroughs disk packs 207 (fixed) and 206 (removable). The first mainframes I worked on were the Burroughs B1700, followed by Burrough B6910. Good times.





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  #3073834 8-May-2023 16:28
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@PolicyGuy Oh, and Burroughs tape drives. Those were amazing...

 





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  #3073882 8-May-2023 17:22
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freitasm:

 

@PolicyGuy Oh, and Burroughs tape drives. Those were amazing...

 

 

 

Ah yes ... cleaning the magnetic oxide dust off the read/write heads and out of the vacuum channels with a cotton bud soaked in isopropyl alcohol. You had to buy it in a 100ml bottle with a company purchase order from a pharmacy who wouldn't sell it without the P/O. You could get a little bit drunk just on the fumes after cleaning two or three drives.

 

The Good Old Days ... I think!


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