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  Reply # 194389 5-Feb-2009 22:59
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I do not know if it is the law, but in my mind it is common sense.

Can you imagine what would happen should certain people piece together who our AOS are, and retaliate against them?

If a blogger was to post a picture, then I would hope that they would be dealt with the same way that the media would be.

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  Reply # 194487 6-Feb-2009 16:31
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Well I think accidents happend. And often you would have to act then and there. The AOS was just doing their job. The AOS does not have the luxury to take all the time in the world to make their mind up about something. The AOS has to act then and there to stop people being killed. Now in retrospect it may seem like it was a bad decision to make but given the circumstances at the time it probably wasn't. And regardless of whether it was or wasnt the right decision at that time i'm betting that alot of you would have been unhappy if the AOS said "hmm someone may get hurt, we better go home and wait for him to giveup, at least that way we wont get in trouble" and then the man to have gone on a rampage and killed some people.

Now we where not there, we do not know all the details so it is not up to us to make a decision or have an opinion that he (the aos officer) is bad. And if someone was pointing a gun at me or someone else I would want to shoot them before more people get killed regardless of whether or not I accidently kill someone in the process (because if I do not then me, the people arround me and many more may die because I didn't act).

Now you just can not say that he is trained for this situation theirfore no accidents should happend. Because he is trained for the situation but he is only human, and humans make mistakes. And i'm shure he wasn't trained for this exact situation where the exact same events happend. And no matter how good a shot you are their is allways a chance that you can miss, however small the chance may be it is still a chance.

And who are we to tell the AOS how to do their job or what they did or did not do. We do not have militry style training. We do not have the expertise or the right to complain about this. The AOS did their job and something happend. It is the AOS job to kill people and theirfore they obviously do not opperate under the law. Because if the AOS opperated under the law then they would go to jail for possesion of firearms and other  banned weapons, assault, murder etc... But the fact is that when they put on those banned weapons and walk out onto the street they are just doing their job. They do not opperate under the law but rather under their own rules and regulation. Because if they where to go to jail for killing someone then they would all quit and not do their job. Then if someone was shooting children at a school we would have no one to stop it.

Now he was doing his job and unfortunatly someone got killed. But stuff happends and people need to get over it. I'm shure the AOS officer did not decide he would kill some civilians that day.

Anyway punishing that AOS officer is not going to help. I'm shure that given no interference (althought we have allready interfered) the AOS would do their own internall investigation and evaluate him to see if he is capable of doing his job or if it just happend and regardless of how good he is it still could of happend.

What do you expect to happend. Hey they could lock him up with the murderes if you want. They could increase taxs to pay for all the extra state servicemen that they could put in jail. They could demolish a state housing block to make way for building a prison to lock state servicemen (like police, council members, AOS etc) in. Then they could take out a $4billion dollar loan to do it. And then we could say that the AOS guy was doing his job, he failed, he broke the law, he folows the same law as us, now he goes to jail along with other people who failed their jobs and broke the law. But that is silly because its counter-productive.

Any court trial on the AOS officer will be purely offensive to me. Waste of money, waste of time and imoral to do this to the AOS officer.

Oh and tasers are not that good. I have not seen a taser that fires more than one shot. And I doubt very much that they are very long range weapons (as the wire is only so long and its not super high powered, thus would probably also not be made or need to be made to be accurate at long ranges). And if someone was shooting at me with a .22 or ak47 I would like to have something bigger than a pistol, taser and a shotgun.

I have noticed that the AOS have grenade launchers attached to their riffles and I was wondering if they could buy cartridges (with stuff like flash bangs, poisonous gasses, gasses that make people loose conceiousness and smoke bombs) that shoot from the grenade launcher. Because that would be alot more usefull than just shooting grenades. They could take the right cartridge for the right scenario. E.g. if there was a hostage situation the could take knocout gas or flashbangs.

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