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tweake
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  #3158642 12-Nov-2023 14:23
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Rikkitic:

 

sir1963:

 

I know quite a few people who want "Natural" cures etc etc etc, however they are NOT greenies. They still want to drive their old crap car that burns oil, are anti public transport, etc etc.

 

 

These are generally people who are not particularly bright or well-informed. Like those who object to 'chemicals' but have no idea what they are talking about. However, as you say, they are not greenies or anything close. They are just foolish people reacting to labels they don't understand. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

absolutely incorrect. these are the greenie sheep. they may not be hardcore greenies but they are still a greenie wither you like it or not. please do not pretend they are not, just like there is no shortage of conspiracy nuts who pretend they are not.

 

they most certainly get used by the green machine, just like they get used by conspiracy groups, used for the cause.


 
 
 

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  #3158645 12-Nov-2023 14:54
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The conspiracy nuts harping on about 15 minute cities is actually kind of annoying, because it makes it easier to dismiss any opposition to them. Personally I'm opposed to anything that doesn't prioritize cars moving at high speeds over all other transport solutions. More roads, bigger roads, higher speed roads, now and forever amen lol.





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  #3158646 12-Nov-2023 14:57
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tweake:

 

absolutely incorrect. these are the greenie sheep. they may not be hardcore greenies but they are still a greenie wither you like it or not. please do not pretend they are not, just like there is no shortage of conspiracy nuts who pretend they are not.

 

they most certainly get used by the green machine, just like they get used by conspiracy groups, used for the cause.

 

 

 

 

Evidence being ...???




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  #3158647 12-Nov-2023 15:07
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sir1963:

 

tweake:

 

absolutely incorrect. these are the greenie sheep. they may not be hardcore greenies but they are still a greenie wither you like it or not. please do not pretend they are not, just like there is no shortage of conspiracy nuts who pretend they are not.

 

they most certainly get used by the green machine, just like they get used by conspiracy groups, used for the cause.

 

 

 

 

Evidence being ...???

 

 

well doh, they are the most common ones harping on about bs greenie stuff. whatever the latest cause they are directed at. quite often its the latest conspiracy theory as well.

 

however don't forget my main point here is the methods used, not what the message is. 

 

 

 

 


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  #3158648 12-Nov-2023 15:10
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tweake:

 

well doh, they are the most common ones harping on about bs greenie stuff. whatever the latest cause they are directed at. quite often its the latest conspiracy theory as well.

 

however don't forget my main point here is the methods used, not what the message is. 

 

 

 

 

LOL, because you believe it and because you say it.

 

Got it.


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  #3158650 12-Nov-2023 15:27
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Rikkitic:

 

In my experience most Greens supporters are anything but easily led. Usually the exact opposite is true. Even when I don't agree with them I usually find them committed, intelligent, passionate and well-informed. A few may also be extremists, but that is true of any group. 

 

 

Committed and passionate I'll agree with (Many I've personally met border on fanatically passionate), the other two vary *wildly*. 


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  #3158651 12-Nov-2023 15:34
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tweake:

 

absolutely incorrect. these are the greenie sheep. they may not be hardcore greenies but they are still a greenie wither you like it or not. please do not pretend they are not, just like there is no shortage of conspiracy nuts who pretend they are not.

 

they most certainly get used by the green machine, just like they get used by conspiracy groups, used for the cause.

 

 

What do you think a 'greenie' is? You can slap any label you like on anything, but that does not make it so. 

 

 





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  #3158652 12-Nov-2023 15:42
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Rikkitic:

 

tweake:

 

absolutely incorrect. these are the greenie sheep. they may not be hardcore greenies but they are still a greenie wither you like it or not. please do not pretend they are not, just like there is no shortage of conspiracy nuts who pretend they are not.

 

they most certainly get used by the green machine, just like they get used by conspiracy groups, used for the cause.

 

 

What do you think a 'greenie' is? You can slap any label you like on anything, but that does not make it so. 

 

 

 

 

true. anyone who pushes the green ideals i tend to call greenie. wither they are the science guys or the dumb sheep makes no difference to me. 

 

 


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  #3158653 12-Nov-2023 15:43
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Fancy a group of people wanting to protect our only viable home and trying to ensure that our mokopuna and tamariki don't have a living hell. Terrible, what the heck is wrong with folks wanting to protect the health of others it's insane. I hope the sarcasm is obvious in this post.

 

For the record I am what is called (usually in an attempted derogatory fashion) a greenie and I am ok with that and guess what I don't have two heads or wear beads and hemp. I am sane (I think) 


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  #3158654 12-Nov-2023 15:44
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sir1963:

 

tweake:

 

well doh, they are the most common ones harping on about bs greenie stuff. whatever the latest cause they are directed at. quite often its the latest conspiracy theory as well.

 

however don't forget my main point here is the methods used, not what the message is. 

 

 

 

 

LOL, because you believe it and because you say it.

 

Got it.

 

 

kinda figured your "prove it" questions where just insults. 

 

 


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  #3158655 12-Nov-2023 15:48
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MikeB4:

 

Fancy a group of people wanting to protect our only viable home and trying to ensure that our mokopuna and tamariki don't have a living hell. Terrible, what the heck is wrong with folks wanting to protect the health of others it's insane. I hope the sarcasm is obvious in this post.

 

For the record I am what is called (usually in an attempted derogatory fashion) a greenie and I am ok with that and guess what I don't have two heads or wear beads and hemp. I am sane (I think) 

 

 

and thats absolutely fine. i'm not claiming you are all nuts. 

 

but there is still an army of greenie sheep out there who get exploited just like conspiracy nuts do. same methods for the same reasons.


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  #3158656 12-Nov-2023 15:50
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MikeB4:

 

Fancy a group of people wanting to protect our only viable home and trying to ensure that our mokopuna and tamariki don't have a living hell. Terrible, what the heck is wrong with folks wanting to protect the health of others it's insane. I hope the sarcasm is obvious in this post.

 

For the record I am what is called (usually in an attempted derogatory fashion) a greenie and I am ok with that and guess what I don't have two heads or wear beads and hemp. I am sane (I think) 

 

 

Greens credibility is damaged by their social policies. I'll never forget the virtual signalling from the green MP who sent out on social media how she was saving the planet by riding a bike to give birth. Someone pointed out, that there wasn't much to celebrate given she was doing one of the worst things a person can do for the planet, in adding another human to it. 

 

I'm goods with Greens being green, even if that's extreme green, but I can't get behind the other stuff. 


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  #3158657 12-Nov-2023 15:55
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Not all who care for the environment are supporters of the NZ Green political party.


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  #3158660 12-Nov-2023 16:17
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tweake:

 

 

 

kinda figured your "prove it" questions where just insults. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not at all, all you did was give airy fairy hand waving examples and expected me to just accept them at face value.

 

 

 

 


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  #3158661 12-Nov-2023 16:18
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MikeB4:

 

Not all who care for the environment are supporters of the NZ Green political party.

 

 

Me for example, there is no way I would vote for the greens (nor act for that matter).

 

But I do accept we need to be making more progress, climate change is real.


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