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  # 230308 2-Jul-2009 15:14
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+ 1 for Whittakers peanut slab, the large one of course.



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  # 230312 2-Jul-2009 15:39
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A lot of other brands of "Chocolate" are cheap Vegetable-oil blends.



Anything that is "Choc" means that its compounded chocolate or made from mostly cheap palm fats. (Cooking choc, choc bar icecreams, "choc" chips in ice cream, most "choc" museli bars.



Perhaps the pack-size reductions may have come about from a cost blowout from all that expensive Cadbury advertising of recent? I wonder if the new cardboard packs cost more than the thin paper wrappers too?


Oh god, What IS worthwhile then? I'm not keen on the thought of veg fat choc.

 
 
 
 


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  # 230432 2-Jul-2009 21:09
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Mint imperials, made in Thailand, Pebbles still made here, marshmallows in Australia, Party mix, Aust and NZ

Got some Whittakers chocolate, was on special :-)

Of course we all love those really flash "$10 for 300Gram" chocolates but Whittakers is an amazing price for the quality and quantity.

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  # 230453 2-Jul-2009 21:42
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paradoxsm: Mint imperials, made in Thailand, Pebbles still made here, marshmallows in Australia, Party mix, Aust and NZ


Outsourcing products is one thing but outsourcing food is another - I don't eat any food stuffs made in China - especially after all those pets started dying in 2007 from tainted food. Check your Peanut butter next time you buy it - most of its made it China - no thanks.

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  # 230487 2-Jul-2009 22:33
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I get my own to consume, Kraft, Made in Australia.
The mice get the Chinese HomeBrand stuff (not that we have caught a single mouse in a year but the traps are set anyway)

Can confirm that whittakers has no "vege fat" in it too.




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  # 230513 2-Jul-2009 23:07
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no more real choc *sobs*. i wouldnt go near any so called chocolate that contains vegetable oil. why not buy a tub of oil, add your own milo and call it chocolate!




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# 230542 3-Jul-2009 06:41
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joker97: no more real choc *sobs*. i wouldnt go near any so called chocolate that contains vegetable oil. why not buy a tub of oil, add your own milo and call it chocolate!

Cadbury doesn't want any more competition. xP




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  # 230601 3-Jul-2009 09:50
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^ isnt that what Nestle do anyway?

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  # 230642 3-Jul-2009 11:56
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lxsw20: . The downsize in bars is because they are being imported from Aus now, an upside to this is we now get a greater range of flavors.


Greater range of flavours ? When ? And theyll taste bad anyway because of the new chocolate mix :(
I love the Snack bar they used to make in Aus (it did appear here for a very short time) but now thinking about it with the nex mixture itll probably be crap.

Will have to get some sent over again to find out.....




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  # 230649 3-Jul-2009 12:30
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In NZ and Australia you are allowed up to 5% Cocoa Butter Equivalent to be able to still call it chocolate, usually this is a palm based oil. Any more than that and it has to be called compound or 'choc'. You'd be surprised how many ice creams, muesli and confectionary items don't actually use real chocolate - there's quite a bit more complexity involved in manufacture.

Cadbury has a centre of excellence in Dunedin so will be producing there for sometime yet. It's just they have a much broader product range now so source from their other sites. Regardless of where it comes from, they still have to meet their global quality standards.

All manufacturig businesses are coming under pressure to meet profit targets. Since sales on most are down it obviously comes down to reducing cost. Cadbury must have been under some pressure - they have been the most trusted brand for the past 3 years.

New cardboard packaging is probably more suited to high speed robot packing and would offer better tamper proof and protection for consumers - win/win.

oops looks like Ixsw20 already covered most these points, great to hear they are exporting crumb.

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  # 230658 3-Jul-2009 13:05
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I've always found the British made Cadbury chocolate much nicer than the Australian or NZ stuff, do they have different rules over there?

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  # 230700 3-Jul-2009 14:26
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There are regional differences in taste, Cadbury or any company will often develop different formulations for each region. Even Australians prefer more salty foods to NZ's slightly sweeter preference. It can also be a matter of different raw material in different countries - Europe will use a different dairy supply to us in particular.




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  # 230706 3-Jul-2009 14:49
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Nimma: In NZ and Australia you are allowed up to 5% Cocoa Butter Equivalent to be able to still call it chocolate, usually this is a palm based oil. Any more than that and it has to be called compound or 'choc'. You'd be surprised how many ice creams, muesli and confectionary items don't actually use real chocolate - there's quite a bit more complexity involved in manufacture.


So Cadbury is JUST chocolate.. or not?  I can understand cheap chocolate chips used in muesli bars - but not when you're selling something as chocolate.

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  # 230856 3-Jul-2009 20:44
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Nimma: In NZ and Australia you are allowed up to 5% Cocoa Butter Equivalent to be able to still call it chocolate, usually this is a palm based oil. Any more than that and it has to be called compound or 'choc'. You'd be surprised how many ice creams, muesli and confectionary items don't actually use real chocolate - there's quite a bit more complexity involved in manufacture.


On that - I was told that Sizzlers ‘Sausages’ can’t be called sausages because they don’t contain enough meat products. --> Begs the question, if it ain’t meat – what is it?

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  # 230858 3-Jul-2009 21:11
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DataCraft:
On that - I was told that Sizzlers ‘Sausages’ can’t be called sausages because they don’t contain enough meat products. --> Begs the question, if it ain’t meat – what is it?


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