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  # 245896 13-Aug-2009 07:46
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My last speeding ticket was for 111 Km/hr on a 100 km/h stretch. Suppose they have to draw the line somewhere




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  # 245900 13-Aug-2009 07:57
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my last speeding ticket was 83 in a 70 zone, I was lucky as I had thought I was in a 100 zone as it used to be. I was speeding and I paid my fine, I just wont be going that fast in that area again.

To the original poster, you were speeding up hill, down hill on the flat take it on the chin, pay the fine and deal with it, I get stuck behind tarffic every evening on the motorway, if I am stuck behind them at 80km/h for half my trip home can I go 120 the rest of the way to average it out over my entire trip???

Speed is a momentary measure not an average.

 
 
 
 


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  # 245902 13-Aug-2009 08:06
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Off topic slightly but

BTW I do a fairly accurate petrol milage measure each week. Please consider

My car gets 8.2l/100km driving between 100-110 on the motorway and the b-road on the way home sitting on 100 going to 110 to overtake on the overtaking lanes

My car gets 7.7l/100km sitting on 90-95 all the way not overtaking, I do 450-500km a weeks so for the 1 minute extra it takes me to get home (sometimes no actual difference) I can save $4.22

My car gets 7.0/100km sitting 80-90 as above I can save $10.13

I can get down to 6.6l/100km with good oil (5W-30) sitting on 80-85 which saves $13.51 per week or $270.24 per 10,000km or $702.52 per year.

That is nearly 9 speeding fines worth...plus the fact that I won't get a speeding fine.

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  # 245905 13-Aug-2009 08:23
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Report them. I do. Any driver that sits 1m off my bumper for a distance of 300m or more while I am already 7-9km/h over the speed limit gets their car rego fired through Community Roadwatch. Offenders typically come out from a side street, hoof it and then sit 1m off my tail. Frankly, I'm not prepared to cop fines nor put up with it especially given that I have no choice but to drive to and from work thanks to what I personally consider decades of extreme automobile centered transport planning in the Auckland Region. (The public transport to my workplace is just about non-existent and cycling is perilous)


Yep and then you ge thte other end of the spectrum where you get someone who pulls out from a side street in front of you and goes 30kmph and doesnt match the traffic.

Or how about those who travel at 80k's until they hit the passing lane and they speed up to 110?

That behaviour can be just as dangerous




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  # 245911 13-Aug-2009 08:46
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Balchy:
Or how about those who travel at 80k's until they hit the passing lane and they speed up to 110?

That behaviour can be just as dangerous


I completely agree, this frustrates the hell out of me. You have to make a choice, either speed past them so that you're not stuck behind them for the next few km until the next passing lane, or continue to sit behind them while they take slight curves at 50km/h and can't keep a constant speed (slow drivers on SH1 between Chch and Dunedin, I'm looking at you!) I don't usually speed, the nice thing about cruise control is I can just set it to 100km/h and not have to worry about a fine.

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  # 245994 13-Aug-2009 12:25
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I've found that drivers on Auckland motorways tend to go noticably slower than they do on Wellington motorways for some reason (I grew up in Wellington and have been living in Auckland the past 5 or so years).

I could sit in the right hand lane on Wellington's motorway going a few clicks over 100 and have to pull over frequently to let faster drivers through. But in Auckland I tend to sit behind drivers going 90-100 in the right hand lane. Oh and all of this is experiences outside of rush hour traffic.

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  # 246001 13-Aug-2009 12:40
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Satch: I've found that drivers on Auckland motorways tend to go noticably slower than they do on Wellington motorways for some reason (I grew up in Wellington and have been living in Auckland the past 5 or so years).

I could sit in the right hand lane on Wellington's motorway going a few clicks over 100 and have to pull over frequently to let faster drivers through. But in Auckland I tend to sit behind drivers going 90-100 in the right hand lane. Oh and all of this is experiences outside of rush hour traffic.


Never been to Wellington but I agree with Auckland motorway users, they sit on 80-90 and wont move over to the left, saw this this morning, I was doing 80-90 in the left lane and about 10 mtrs ahead there was a truck doing the same sitting in the right lane, it is just ignorance and in my opinion worse driving than speeding. I try to keep left when I can and if I can't I'll pull off to let people pass when it is safe to do so.

 
 
 
 


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# 246021 13-Aug-2009 14:00
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Adamal: Tony, are in in Auckland? Its rare here to see people sticking to 50, and its also rare for a police officer to pull you over. I've been in a flow of traffic going around 55-60kph many many times and cops go by and don't think twice about it.

I'm not having a go, but guessing that things may be different if you're like in Welly or something.
Its like when I was living in Cromwell and rode my bike without a helmet. The police would pull you over without fail.
In Auckland, I was riding on the foot path, and rode right infront of a cop that was stopped in a driveway waiting to pull out and they didn't look twice at me. That wasn't the only cop though that just passed me by.


Just to lighten this thread up a bit. The police on the Kapiti Coast had a blitz on cyclists earlier this year for not wearing helmets. One cyclist was booked twice on the day ....... within 15 minutes.

As you can obviously tell, there isn't any other sort of crime happening in Kapiti, that they can devote so much police manpower to apprehending and fining these dangerous criminals.

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  # 247355 16-Aug-2009 20:58
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In my opinion it's stupidity that kills not speed.

Am I advocating that we should be allowed to go as fast as we like on the roads - no I am not - I try to stick to the speed limit at all times.

What I would like to see though, is the police paying as much attention to overtaking dangerously, not indicating and a few other infractions, as they do to speeding and drink driving.

Oh and by the way, is there some small print on stop signs which says "if you feel like it" or some such?

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  # 247370 16-Aug-2009 21:19
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mtvessel: Oh and by the way, is there some small print on stop signs which says "if you feel like it" or some such?


I'm sick of being abused for actually STOPPING when there's a stop sign. Maybe there is small print and I need glasses?




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  # 247503 17-Aug-2009 10:04
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mtvessel: In my opinion it's stupidity that kills not speed.

Am I advocating that we should be allowed to go as fast as we like on the roads - no I am not - I try to stick to the speed limit at all times.

What I would like to see though, is the police paying as much attention to overtaking dangerously, not indicating and a few other infractions, as they do to speeding and drink driving.

Oh and by the way, is there some small print on stop signs which says "if you feel like it" or some such?


I have to agree about the dangerous overtaking that is happening on NZ roads. But there are no ads on TV
focusing on that issue. Also taking corners to fast another big one, need to look at that as well.
What we need is not more speed cameras, But more cops in mufti-cars using their common sense and pulling over DANGEROUS and CARELESS Drivers and their cars off the road.
Just as a little side note...
In the NT in Australia the Highways had no speed limit, They reintroduced speed limits, speed cameras etc.
and the death rate went down..NO..it went up.
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I was in a car and the driver got a ticket last night, he was going along a straight and really had no excuse, cop was quite good with him really and gave advice and just said please watch your speed and pay $80, probably as he has had so many tickets before.

I got one just after veering over the crest of a hill, first ticket ever (I had collected a second hand car for a friend that turned out to have many issues including a misreading speedometer), cop was a utter smart ar*e, made me get out of the car, was trying to imply I had stolen it because it wasn't in my name etc and had a real go at me for a trivial and honest mistake, I recorded his conduct on my phone as it was rather inappropriate. My GPS logger recorded my top speed for the whole trip as being exactly that bit he snagged me at, I never went over 105 anywhere else.

I now have a Radar detector and will buy a car with cruise control or a speed limiter next time around, prior to that day I would have frowned upon their use but this sour apple really changed my attitude.

One thing I have noticed from a huge number of trips north and south is that police/speed cameras in the Wellington/Manuwatu region "hide in the bushes" elsewhere, the police cars seem to make themselves clearly visible to promote the "safe driving" message or actually patrol also to provide assistance as people break down.

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# 247542 17-Aug-2009 11:21
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I agree cops should pay a lot more attention to small things such as not indicating, wrong indication (mainly on roundabouts), dangerous overtaking and more.

Some cops are quite nice - I know a few. But some are just plain having their day. When I bought my first PT Cruiser, back in 2001 it was the only one in Wellington. I was stopped once by a cop on Thorndon Quay who said quite nicely "I hope you don't mind I stopped you, but I wanted to look at the car, if that's alright". I though it was funny and we talked about the car.

Then the week after a quite older cop was on a motorbike behind me and flashed the lights. He stopped me on Cambridge Tce saying "You didn't indicate correctly when changing lanes". I said "Yes, I did", and he replied "You did, but you indicated for two seconds before changing lanes and I was expecting three seconds".

How is that to make someone lose faith in traffic cops? He was rude ("You are not listening. You shouldn't say anything when I am talking to you") and let me go with a "warning" that I think I shouldn't deserve, since my intentions were clear and I had indicated. I see so much worse than that around...







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paradoxsm: I now have a Radar detector and will buy a car with cruise control or a speed limiter next time around, prior to that day I would have frowned upon their use but this sour apple really changed my attitude.

One thing I have noticed from a huge number of trips north and south is that police/speed cameras in the Wellington/Manuwatu region "hide in the bushes" elsewhere, the police cars seem to make themselves clearly visible to promote the "safe driving" message or actually patrol also to provide assistance as people break down.


Cruise control doesn't stop the car powering up to the crest of a hill and overspeeding down the other side. It will help on the flat if there aren't too many other cars interrupting traffic flow.

When the national policy is
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  • sAll speed measuring devices are to be operated in an overt manner. Hidden or camouflaged deployment is not to be used unless there is a specific operation targeting offending consisting of:

  • Sustained loss of traction; or

  • Engaging in an unauthorised street or drag race; or

  • Dangerous or reckless driving.

  • The operation cannot effectively or safely be conducted using overt means.

  • Such operations must be recorded by way of written operation order and pre-approved in writing by the district road policing manager."


do you think the Wgtn police are really on specific operations or just thick?

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freitasm: I agree cops should pay a lot more attention to small things such as not indicating, wrong indication (mainly on roundabouts), dangerous overtaking and more.

Some cops are quite nice - I know a few. But some are just plain having their day. When I bought my first PT Cruiser, back in 2001 it was the only one in Wellington. I was stopped once by a cop on Thorndon Quay who said quite nicely "I hope you don't mind I stopped you, but I wanted to look at the car, if that's alright". I though it was funny and we talked about the car.

Then the week after a quite older cop was on a motorbike behind me and flashed the lights. He stopped me on Cambridge Tce saying "You didn't indicate correctly when changing lanes". I said "Yes, I did", and he replied "You did, but you indicated for two seconds before changing lanes and I was expecting three seconds".

How is that to make someone lose faith in traffic cops? He was rude ("You are not listening. You shouldn't say anything when I am talking to you") and let me go with a "warning" that I think I shouldn't deserve, since my intentions were clear and I had indicated. I see so much worse than that around...





OMG, you actually indicated before changing lanes?!!  The cop was probably so shocked at seeing such behaviour on Wellington's streets that it caused a brain-freeze.


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