Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7

xpd



8295 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1090

Mod Emeritus
Trusted
Subscriber

  Reply # 261613 6-Oct-2009 12:02
Send private message

Gee someone needs a coffee.
Or a real car.... ;)




XPD^ / @DemiseNZ / Gavin

 

Internet : Voyager (VDSL)         Mobile : 2Degrees

 

Data Backed up by Backblaze

 

xpd.co.nz


32 posts

Geek


  Reply # 261661 6-Oct-2009 13:14
Send private message

I'll be trying to watch the race on Sunday.
Depends on how long it takes to move house on the weekend.
Should have moved earlier. Oh well. Can't be changed now.

+1 for Holden to win though :)

 
 
 
 


544 posts

Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 261678 6-Oct-2009 13:40
Send private message

phlegmboy:

As for the Skylines, If the only way they can beat a heavy, normally aspirated, non-adjusdtable diff, non adjustable gearbox two wheel drive pushrod V8 is by stuffing the thing full of trick diffs, gearboxes, turboes and trick 4 wheel drive, then that just proves the car is crap.


Finally! A Holden driver that admits that their car is based on antiquated redundant technology :D
But I'm not sure how it proves that a car is crap? If anything, you've re-enforced that the V8's were the crap car ;)

However, now that its strictly a bent 8 race, its not so much a matter of who has a better car. They're all pretty much controlled now. Engine type and capacity and power etc. The tyres... Even the acutual wheelbase of the cars has to be modified from the road going versions.

What it boils down to is that its Ford or Holden due to brand or driver loyalty. Not due to difference in a cars performance. So whether the driver cut their teeth in a Holden or a Ford really doesn't count for anything. Its all about the team these days. From the driver to the managers to the pit crew. How well they all perform determines a win.

 

17471 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2118

Trusted

  Reply # 263119 10-Oct-2009 19:03
Send private message

well talk about murph ... his track record still stands from 6 years ago! why are the v8s getting slower? yeah i say let the gtr have a go! hee hee

59 posts

Master Geek

Trusted

  Reply # 263204 11-Oct-2009 00:08
Send private message

So a two wheel drive car doing 300Kph using "antiquated" technology is crap? Wow. So, please tell me, just how many times did the Skyline win at Wellington? Zero, Zip, Zilch, Nada, None. Yep, that's right. Their trick front diffs could not handle the bumps along cable street which, strangely enough did not seem to affect any other 4wd cars. Go figure. Oh, and the engines in the V8's comes from each brands parent operations so there is a difference between them.

Ans to answer joker97, the reason they were not faster today is that a lot of the rubber had been washed off the track, which reduced grip and also the 15C air temperature and overcast conditions which reduced the track temperature meant that tyre temperatures and pressures did not get up to their optimal levels and so grip was compromised. Also the fact that the cars are rev limited and only have a small set of ratios they can use in the gearbox ajnd differential means that it is harder and harder to set absolute records.

The Lap Of The Gods was one of those freak occurrences where the car and driver were in synch with the track and weather and the result was magic. Will it happen again? Quite probably. Will I be disappointed that Murph no longer hold the la0p? Al little but i will also applaud the driver who takes it, no matter which brand he drives, for driving such a formidable lap.




I'd go on a Vegan diet but the delivery time from Vega is too long.

176 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 1


  Reply # 263317 11-Oct-2009 19:59
Send private message

arguably how many times has an aussie v8 won Nurburg- what was the terminology... to quote "Zero, Zip, Zilch, Nada, None. Yep, that's right" everything has a perspective.. while the latest production skyline has the lap record for a production car beating (insert foreign exotic super cars here...) cars 20x its price...
wiki is my source...


just spent the last 7 hours watching tv3 and Murph... what a race :) hats off to murph and scaife - bloody safety car with 15? laps to go - murph and scaife should have won.... 4/1000ths for 3rd - bloody awesome..

What really pisses me off is that they didnt show the award ceremony...

2506 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 315

Trusted

  Reply # 263320 11-Oct-2009 20:11
Send private message

So lets see..

1: HOLDEN
2: HOLDEN
3: HOLDEN
4: HOLDEN
5: Ford
6: HOLDEN
7: HOLDEN
8: HOLDEN
9: HOLDEN
10: HOLDEN

guess you get the idea :)

25591 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 5366

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Subscriber

  Reply # 263321 11-Oct-2009 20:11
Send private message

Holden FTW!


1539 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 39

Trusted

  Reply # 263322 11-Oct-2009 20:20
Send private message

This is all I have to say...



2113 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 188


  Reply # 263326 11-Oct-2009 20:32
Send private message

I'm rather shocked. For once they didn't slipstream (all of) the coverage!

We had a 42" with 3 coverage, and a 40" beside it with live internet timing. It wasn't hard to spot the 2nd to last SC where Murph's chances went out the window that the restart was replayed. They even removed the "live" part of the logo.

I suspect a result of the drongos playing so many ads when the SC was out and messing it up! And my were there some ad breaks!!

So much for live un-interupted coverage, they clearly don't follow the aussies ad breaks. I think last time they said they need to play ads to pay for the rights, and they can never know how long the breaks are going to be.

And don't get me started on the cruddy news coverage. Normal races.. change to C4. The big one.. leave malcolm in the middle repeats going. WTF!

Shame I can't tune my sat into D2 easily and get the raw feed like I use to from D1 when TVNZsport were messing with the feed/showing ads :(

2506 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 315

Trusted

  Reply # 263329 11-Oct-2009 20:37
Send private message

Yes I will give TV3 credit there, I was worried they were going to insert a lot of ad breaks which would push the coverage out till 9pm

176 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 1


  Reply # 263332 11-Oct-2009 20:49
Send private message

credit? - its their business - there were heaps of add breaks and to start was coinciding with channel7.
They show 2 hours of yesterdays coverage in the morning but can't spare another 10 mins for the winning awards presentation... that IS part of Bathurst, any race for that matter...

544 posts

Ultimate Geek


  Reply # 263362 11-Oct-2009 22:23
Send private message

phlegmboy: So a two wheel drive car doing 300Kph using "antiquated" technology is crap? Wow. So, please tell me, just how many times did the Skyline win at Wellington? Zero, Zip, Zilch, Nada, None. Yep, that's right. Their trick front diffs could not handle the bumps along cable street which, strangely enough did not seem to affect any other 4wd cars. Go figure. Oh, and the engines in the V8's comes from each brands parent operations so there is a difference between them.


Ok, so you name one place where the Skyline wasn't very good. How about you name the places where the Skyline gave the V8's a right beating? ;) I think you'll find that it far out numbers Wellington ;)
And YOU call a car that is able to beat your two wheel drive car that does 300kph crap?

Heres the low down on racing: With equal drivers, crap cars don't win.

Also, you've just repeated what I've said. Being from a different company is pretty much the ONLY difference between them. Thats what I was getting at...

These days, if you REALLY want to compare Holdens and Fords, you can't do it in V8 Supercars, you can only do it in the road cars.

1677 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 7

Trusted

  Reply # 263504 12-Oct-2009 15:18
Send private message

yes, I was surprised they cut the coverage away very fast. Thank goodness for D2.

2260 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted

  Reply # 263633 13-Oct-2009 10:01
Send private message

I thought the 15 minute news was great :) just teh way it should be every night.

Wish I had D2 but I just have terrestrial :(
That Supercheap advert with the wheelbarrow got tiresome though

oh and:
phlegmboy: So a two wheel drive car doing 300Kph using "antiquated" technology is crap? Wow. So, please tell me, just how many times did the Skyline win at Wellington? Zero, Zip, Zilch, Nada, None.

The first time in Wellington, they had a blown Turbo and it was won by a BMW M3
second time, with the blown diff, they still managed 3rd after the BMW M3 and Holden driven by Peter Perfect. That's the good thing about the R32s, you can just turn the 4wd off by pulling the fuse. In the other 4wds you would've had to drop the half shafts out and plugged the front diff...on any of the 4wds racing that day, they would've just retired rather than spending 25 minutes in the pits




I have moved across the ditch.  Now residing in Melbourne as a VOIP/Video Technical Trainer/Engineer. 

1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

New Zealand Ministry of Education chooses Unisys for cloud-based education resourcing management system
Posted 22-Nov-2017 22:00


Business analytics software powers profits for NZ wine producers
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:52


Pyrios strikes up alliance with Microsoft integrator UC Logiq
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:51


The New Zealand IT services ecosystem - it's all digital down here
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:49


Volvo to supply tens of thousands of autonomous drive compatible cars to Uber
Posted 22-Nov-2017 21:46


From small to medium and beyond: Navigating the ERP battlefield
Posted 21-Nov-2017 21:12


Business owners: ERP software selection starts (and finishes) with you
Posted 21-Nov-2017 21:11


Why I'm not an early adopter
Posted 21-Nov-2017 10:39


Netatmo launches smart home products in New Zealand
Posted 20-Nov-2017 20:06


Huawei Mate 10: Punchy, long battery life, artificial intelligence
Posted 20-Nov-2017 16:30


Propel launch Disney Star Wars Laser Battle Drones
Posted 19-Nov-2017 21:26


UFB killer app: Speed
Posted 17-Nov-2017 17:01


The case for RSS — MacSparky
Posted 13-Nov-2017 14:35


WordPress and Indieweb: Take control of your online presence — 6:30 GridAKL Nov 30
Posted 11-Nov-2017 13:43


Chorus reveals technology upgrade for schools, students
Posted 10-Nov-2017 10:28



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.