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# 42534 6-Oct-2009 13:52
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I wanted to sell my xbox 360 on trademe (to get funds towards a PS3 slim).  It's the original pro version circa 2006 (20GB Hard drive, no HDMI port). It's never had RRoD though, so that is good.

I figured I might get $200 for it with a bit of luck, so I set the reserve at $100 and offered a buy now of $300.

Less than one day after listing a buyer took the buy now option and sent me an email with their address (They are in Invercargil, I'm in auckland) saying they have deposited the money, along with postage of $15, direct to my account.
All good so far, although I think they are slightly crazy for paying that amount for this when you can buy a newer 360 for less than that, and often with games bundled in.  Heck, even EB games sell them second hand for about that price.

Then I check their history. Perfect feedback (107, all positive) is a plus, but I notice the last two auctions they won in the last couple of weeks were for a 360 with a broken DVD drive and an Xbox 360 DVD drive, together for only around $150.
I figure, ok, maybe they buy and resell 360s or something, but then none of their previous auctions were for 360s, and why would they pay over the odds for mine?

Then a thought occurs to me.

Maybe they bought the broken 360 and dvd drive with the intention of fixing it. Then when they realise they couldn't, they decide to buy an identical working one online (my one), then when they recieve it claim that it is broken (either RRoD or damaged in the post or whatever) and return the original broken one to me. I, being an unsuspecting idiot, would then apologise to them and refund their $300.
(or possibly after it arrives they claim it got lost in the post and so get me to claim on the insurance for the lost 360)

Of course it could be totally innocent and they may just want 2 x 360s, so I don't want to turn down the $300 'just in case'.

I figure I wait until the money has definitely cleared, then take pictures of the serial number on my 360 to keep as evidence in case they try and return the broken one.

The only difficulty is, what if they simply swap out the case and send me my original case, but with the broken 360 drives etc in it? How will I prove then whether it is mine or not?
Is there some other incontrovertible way I can confirm whether the 360 they try and return is mine?

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Ultimate Geek

  # 261703 6-Oct-2009 14:40
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Record the serial number, model number etc.
I don't know much about 360s, but surely they all have MAC addresses... are these written on the body anywhere?

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  # 261713 6-Oct-2009 15:00
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Surely if they were that smart to do this 'scam' they wouldnt be stupid enough to have those items in their feedback?


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  # 261719 6-Oct-2009 15:05
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Record the MAC address and serial number, take pictures - but in case the wrong one comes back the MAC address evidence will be your word against theirs, since it can't be recorded as a picture of a serial # label.

Worst, they can just say you are the scammer...

Really hard to tell. Good luck with that one.

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  # 261720 6-Oct-2009 15:05
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If the money is deposited in your account, pack it up, say Saionara 360 and Hajimemash!te PS3.

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  # 261751 6-Oct-2009 16:20
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I think you may be overthinking the whole situation, but always be a little cautious. Take serial numbers as has already been stated, and take the $300, chances are you wont hear back from them anyway

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  # 261784 6-Oct-2009 17:37
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You could take a phot of it running while holding up todays paper in the foreground, lots of evidence for what is probably not a problem. Good Luck

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  # 261787 6-Oct-2009 17:49
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It's probably something you'd expect a noob user to do, if they were in the business of trying to scam people. How far back does their positive feedback go? If it goes back a fair way I highly doubt a scammer would be patient enough to build up a good profile then start trying to rip people off.

Scammers are usually after a quick buck. No harm in being cautious though. Make sure it's sent with a tracking number, and do what others have suggested. I see where you're coming from tho!


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  # 261914 7-Oct-2009 01:47
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You can plug it into your lan and do an arp -a and photo that and the label to prove that it matches what is being sent, also take photos of all the joins in the case, its real hard to open without leaving some form of tool mark if you dont know what you are doing.


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  # 262257 7-Oct-2009 21:38
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It's always good to be cautious, but I do think that you are over-reacting on the situation a little.

As many others have said, take the serial and MAC address, take the $300 and send it away.

It's most likely a user who hasn't done their research before purchasing.

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